is there anyone else on this planet like me??

[thesummerqueen]

LOL, I love you, Min. That's the first thing I thought of too when I saw the title of the thread.

[Minimalist]

.... and the kid wants to know if its true, eh Summer?

[thesummerqueen]

Lewis Black is the guru of our time. He should always be believed.

[Violet]

No. Puberty is when you first start adolesence. The brain doesn't fully develop until around your age. Maybe you're just a late bloomer.

At first, I felt like saying something educational. Then, I realized you or someone else would argue the point (and also never learn from it). After that thought, I listened to some nob saying something stupid on my teamspeak. To make matters worth, my brother is annoyingly banging (on?) something upstairs. Finally, I get up on the inevitable cascade of retardation, and ate more sunflower seeds.

Damn but I love these sunflower seeds.

well deists I think believe God exists but doesn't do anything to interact - which I think IS similar to 'free will'

This is not true. If a being believes that 'God' exists, then they are a theist, even if they do not know what to call that 'God' (agnostic theism).

Deists doesn't know if it's a god, gods, a force, some super cray aliens, or computer programmers. If they did know, they wouldn't be deists. Their belief is that, well... let me tell you in a song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fahr069-fzE

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Okay, that song may not have been related at all. This is the one I meant.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkI-B2JWSZI

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... Shi-WAIT! I've got it, dammit!

SERIOUSLY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjE126KvPZI

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[Minimalist]

Lewis Black is the guru of our time. He should always be believed.

He beats the shit out of jesus...that much is certain.

[Alex K]

You're right. For example, I'm german vegetarian parent-to-be who likes death metal and baroque and late romantic period music. We got almost nuthin in common. Oh, I've got a second grade cousin in toronto, that should count for something...
But srsly, you're right. Very few or any of my friends at all are hardcore atheist, none vegetarians, some have atrocious taste in music. So what...

If you define social inclusion by a complete matching of all philosophical beliefs, then I'm alone, too. Being Canadian, I can relate to other Canadians. Being a vegetarian, I can relate to other vegetarians. Being a parent, I can relate to other parents. Liking both heavy metal and classical music, I can relate to people who like either heavy metal or classical music. But if I'm looking only for other Canadian vegetarian parents who love both heavy metal and classical music, I'm not going to feel that I'm comfortably seated at the core of any social group, either.

[bennyboy]

You're right. For example, I'm german vegetarian parent-to-be who likes death metal and baroque and late romantic period music. We got almost nuthin in common. Oh, I've got a second grade cousin in toronto, that should count for something...
But srsly, you're right. Very few or any of my friends at all are hardcore atheist, none vegetarians, some have atrocious taste in music. So what...

If you define social inclusion by a complete matching of all philosophical beliefs, then I'm alone, too. Being Canadian, I can relate to other Canadians. Being a vegetarian, I can relate to other vegetarians. Being a parent, I can relate to other parents. Liking both heavy metal and classical music, I can relate to people who like either heavy metal or classical music. But if I'm looking only for other Canadian vegetarian parents who love both heavy metal and classical music, I'm not going to feel that I'm comfortably seated at the core of any social group, either.

Exactly

@OP:

Atheists MAY SEEM like a unified group to you. Try saying "abortion," "gun control," "good parenting," etc. and you'll find out we're all just a bunch of people, often linked ONLY by a lack of formal religious belief.

[Jacob(smooth)]

freaking sucks all my life i feel like im an outcast with my beliefs because they dont really fit in with Christianity or other religions and i dont fit in with atheists either, though i like it here because of the Christian jokes lol and different ways to look at things.


ie: i believe in a god, but dont believe in bible stuff, the closest i come to fitting with are liberal christians but its very frustrating because ALL the other liberal Christians I have met around the world offlne and online believe in the concept of 'free will' and I don't believe in free will at all.

so its very frustrating and i feel like Im all alone

There's two ways to look at that.

There's nobody else like me

Or

There's nobody else like me

See what I did there?

You're a teenager, be non conformist, just like all the other teenagers!

The other thing to bear in mind is that if you hold views which no group holds to, it means you are thinking for yourself!

You rock on with your bad nonconformist self.

[Zen Badger]

freaking sucks all my life i feel like im an outcast with my beliefs because they dont really fit in with Christianity or other religions and i dont fit in with atheists either, though i like it here because of the Christian jokes lol and different ways to look at things.


ie: i believe in a god, but dont believe in bible stuff, the closest i come to fitting with are liberal christians but its very frustrating because ALL the other liberal Christians I have met around the world offlne and online believe in the concept of 'free will' and I don't believe in free will at all.

so its very frustrating and i feel like Im all alone

Why this desire to "fit in"?

Be yourself, when you find the place where you fit in, it will take no effort at all.

I used to try and fit in and I got nowhere. Then I said fuck it. Now people try to fit in with me.

[Alex K]

You're a teenager, be non conformist, just like all the other teenagers!

Well strictly speaking he hasn't been a teenager for several years, but your point still remains valid

But don't take our word for it, leodeo, here's the word from messiah himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVygqjyS4CA