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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:04 am
(February 28, 2014 at 7:59 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I'm so tired of hearing the "well people thought earth was flat" argument. People had no scientific knowledge back then. Now most people have the atheist's so called "evidence" at the click of a button and STILL it hasn't convinced most people (I don't even KNOW an open atheist in real life).
So what you're saying is that because we still don't know everything yet, sufficient to convince wrong people that they are wrong... they must be right. Despite not having any evidence. 
You can be tired of hearing my argument all you want, but that doesn't mean you've at all addressed it.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:06 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:04 am)Esquilax Wrote: (February 28, 2014 at 7:59 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I'm so tired of hearing the "well people thought earth was flat" argument. People had no scientific knowledge back then. Now most people have the atheist's so called "evidence" at the click of a button and STILL it hasn't convinced most people (I don't even KNOW an open atheist in real life).
So what you're saying is that because we still don't know everything yet, sufficient to convince wrong people that they are wrong... they must be right. Despite not having any evidence.
You can be tired of hearing my argument all you want, but that doesn't mean you've at all addressed it.
But people didn't know anything scientific back then. Nowadays people pretty much no the evidence for evolution and the evolution for creationism, and most pick the later.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:07 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:04 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Our evidence is the planet. Atheists think this all just happened. My dad says it takes more evidence to be an atheist and believe in evolution than to be a Christian.
If you think your dad is so astute, why not invite him here to take us on himself? Just don't be surprised if afterwards he won't let you see the transcript of what actually happened. 
More importantly, you don't get to tell us what we think. We'll tell you. In this case, it's a very well documented scientific fact how the planet was formed: gravity acts upon particles, drawing them in to form the core of the planet, and then drawing in more, and more, etc. You're not going to get away with an argument from ignorance here.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:08 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:06 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: But people didn't know anything scientific back then. Nowadays people pretty much no the evidence for evolution and the evolution for creationism, and most pick the later.
But most of the scientists who actually know all the evidence and understand what it means are atheists and accept evolution. That's been surveyed: what does it tell you, that the people who most understand the evidence are on our side and not yours? 
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:09 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:07 am)Esquilax Wrote: (February 28, 2014 at 8:04 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Our evidence is the planet. Atheists think this all just happened. My dad says it takes more evidence to be an atheist and believe in evolution than to be a Christian.
If you think your dad is so astute, why not invite him here to take us on himself? Just don't be surprised if afterwards he won't let you see the transcript of what actually happened.
More importantly, you don't get to tell us what we think. We'll tell you. In this case, it's a very well documented scientific fact how the planet was formed: gravity acts upon particles, drawing them in to form the core of the planet, and then drawing in more, and more, etc. You're not going to get away with an argument from ignorance here.
My dad doesn't go on sites like this...
Did you SEE any of that happen? How do you know it happened? Maybe you atheists have more faith than you give yourselves credit for.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:09 am
Did you see your God?
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:11 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:09 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: My dad doesn't go on sites like this...
Afraid he might learn something?
Quote:Did you SEE any of that happen? How do you know it happened? Maybe you atheists have more faith than you give yourselves credit for.
Did you see god create the planet?
If not, what shall we rely upon: an old book of demonstrably wrong stories, or the scientific evidence drawn together by trained, careful people?
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:11 am
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(February 28, 2014 at 8:08 am)Esquilax Wrote: (February 28, 2014 at 8:06 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: But people didn't know anything scientific back then. Nowadays people pretty much no the evidence for evolution and the evolution for creationism, and most pick the later.
But most of the scientists who actually know all the evidence and understand what it means are atheists and accept evolution. That's been surveyed: what does it tell you, that the people who most understand the evidence are on our side and not yours?
Well it is highly pressurised to be an atheist in the scientific community. Since non-believers are the ones who usually read about science, they'll often just ignore what an openly Christian scientist says as "creationist propaganda". Many likely think evolution is ridiculous, yet out of social pressure of the buisness claim it's true.
(February 28, 2014 at 8:09 am)Psykhronic Wrote: Did you see your God?
I don't need to, I have FAITH!
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:11 am
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Did you see god create the earth?
We go where the evidence points, that is to say, scientists go where the evidence points. None of the evidence points and creationism or intelligent design.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:13 am
(February 28, 2014 at 7:59 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I'm so tired of hearing the "well people thought earth was flat" argument. People had no scientific knowledge back then. Now most people have the atheist's so called "evidence" at the click of a button and STILL it hasn't convinced most people (I don't even KNOW an open atheist in real life).
Eratosthenes calculated the circumfrence of the Earth two centuries before Christ with only a 2% error compared to modern measurement. You could have found this with a couple button clicks.
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