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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:19 am
You aren't prepared for a discussion with us JesusLover. Go away and come back when you are older and (hopefully) wiser.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:20 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:09 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: My dad doesn't go on sites like this...
Of course he doesn't. That would actually require him to rationally defend his position to a group of skeptical adults rather than get paid to preach to the gullible flock -- at least when he's not indoctrinating his own child into his sick ancient cult.
Quote:Did you SEE any of that happen? How do you know it happened? Maybe you atheists have more faith than you give yourselves credit for.
Cheap rhetorical flourishes won't cut it, son. Scientists are able to make reasonable inferences about past events on the basis of present conditions. It happens all the time. By your standard, for instance, no one could ever be reasonably convicted of a crime on the basis of forensic evidence if there was no eye witness.
Hell, if you're going to be honest and consistent with your "did you see any of that happen" argument, that pretty much flushes the entire Christian faith down the toilet, doesn't it? After all, you and your parents didn't witness any of the alleged events that form the basis for your faith.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:22 am
Guys my dad has studied the Bible for over 40 years. I trust his opinion on it over people who think it's a bunch of desert scribblings. You do realize you have to read the Bible with an open spiritual heart?
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:23 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:19 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Telling a Christian to read scientific materials is like asking an atheist to read the Bible.
Google Francis Collins.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:23 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:19 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Telling a Christian to read scientific materials is like asking an atheist to read the Bible.
*Sigh
Many atheists have read the bible, either out of curiosity, to better understand Christianity, or because they were Christian at one point.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:25 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:22 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Guys my dad has studied the Bible for over 40 years. I trust his opinion on it over people who think it's a bunch of desert scribblings. You do realize you have to read the Bible with an open spiritual heart?
Whooptie fucking do! I suppose he has a couple birds and some earthen bowls in the medicine cabinet in the event your house is stricken with leprosy.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:27 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:19 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Telling a Christian to read scientific materials is like asking an atheist to read the Bible.
As deeply telling as this is about your level of intellectual curiosity, the more important thing to note is that I'm a lifelong atheist and I have read the bible. A lot of us have. Are you going to start picking up science journals now?
What is it that you're interested in, dude: discovering the truth, or ensuring you're never exposed to anything that might threaten the things you want to believe? Would you rather be uncomfortable but honest, or on familiar territory, but a liar?
Would Jesus appreciate you lying, like you are here by omission?
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:35 am
(February 28, 2014 at 7:51 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: I don't understand how the world works scientifically, neither do probably any of you all that well, we aren't scientists! So I'm gonna trust that 31.59% of people are right (Christians) then 2.01% of people are right (Atheists)
Plus where I live over 90% of people are Christians.
Have you ever done something to see what happens and formed conclusions based upon the results?
Science isn't about knowing the answer, it's about finding it.
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:35 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:20 am)Crossless1 Wrote: (February 28, 2014 at 8:09 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: My dad doesn't go on sites like this...
Of course he doesn't. That would actually require him to rationally defend his position ..
Ha Ha.. So true.. and so funny !
Jesuslover1, tell your dad that there are people online that want to hear of his "Truth," and by Jesus' command in the bible, he is bound to explain it to us.
Or he can tell jesus to fuck off if he wishes..
Acts 10:42 ESV / 8 helpful votes
And he commanded us to preach to the people and to testify that he is the one appointed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.
Isaiah 43:10 ESV / 8 helpful votes
“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord,
1 Peter 3:15 ESV / 4 helpful votes
But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,
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RE: Are we scientists?
February 28, 2014 at 8:36 am
(February 28, 2014 at 8:22 am)JesusLover1 Wrote: Guys my dad has studied the Bible for over 40 years. I trust his opinion on it over people who think it's a bunch of desert scribblings. You do realize you have to read the Bible with an open spiritual heart?
I don't have to approach science with an open heart. Facts don't care what anybody thinks.
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