Ayn Rand is just a poor facsimile of Neitzche

[Really?]

I know that there are more than a few libertarians on this board, and while Rand is not, strictly speaking, a libertarian there is a strong intersection of objectivists and libertarians at sites like this.

Anyway, Rand's all encompassing philosophy of objectivism is clearly just a reactionary rejection of all things described as good in the late Leninist-early Stalinist soviet regime. The fact that this regime was xenophobic, paranoid, and largely unable to impliment a society anything like engles/marx collectivism was irrelevant to her. Her readings of both hard and soft science were seriously flawed, especially in economics. This becomes most appearent in her novels where many of her characters are buisness owners or creators. While these characters are described as titans of industry, they always make choices that veer towards personal wish fullfillment. (The fountainhead being the worst: The "hero" decides its more important that his work be artistically full filling than that the end product be what potential buyers are looking for...)


However, all that aside the real issue is that Objectivist ethics is little more than a variation of Neitzche's "master moralities" and attacks against kantian and christian ethics are a sad rehash of Neitzche's arguments against slave moralities. Further, Rand's rational egotism manages to capture all the easily understood parts of the will to power without managing to impart any of the higher order requirements for personal growth.

Can anybody offer a defense of why Rand is not just a poor man's Neitzche?

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

Yeah, man, you're so right. Fuck Ayn Rand. Egoist motherfucker. I blame her for influencing both Republicans and Libertarians to suck.

[rsb]

Sorry both are retards. The first is a second rate author who published about a philosophy devoted to self, the second is just a retard who thinks that stronger steel helps you build better railroads and architects of high rises need to focus on furniture and interior design, not elevators, fire control, earthquake mediation, and sewage. Ann rand was probably a kgb plant to destroy America, and the retards who believe in her might actually accomplish the mission.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

Sorry both are retards. The first is a second rate author who published about a philosophy devoted to self, the second is just a retard who thinks that stronger steel helps you build better railroads and architects of high rises need to focus on furniture and interior design, not elevators, fire control, earthquake mediation, and sewage. Ann rand was probably a kgb plant to destroy America, and the retards who believe in her might actually accomplish the mission.

Yeah, using "retard" as a derogatory term totally makes you seem like an intelligent, rational individual. [/sarcasm]

[rsb]

Sorry both are retards. The first is a second rate author who published about a philosophy devoted to self, the second is just a retard who thinks that stronger steel helps you build better railroads and architects of high rises need to focus on furniture and interior design, not elevators, fire control, earthquake mediation, and sewage. Ann rand was probably a kgb plant to destroy America, and the retards who believe in her might actually accomplish the mission.

Yeah, using "retard" as a derogatory term totally makes you seem like an intelligent, rational individual. [/sarcasm]

Given that my retarded sister could kick both of their asses in any way possible, I agree At least she understands she needs to take it slow and simple so as not to get confused. I often envy her in that way. They are not just retards, they are weak retards who have not adapted.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

Given that my retarded sister could kick both of their asses in any way possible, I agree At least she understands she needs to take it slow and simple so as not to get confused. I often envy her in that way.

You think you have a right to use the word "retarded" that way because your sister is mentally retarded? You don't have to go through what she does. It would be like saying you have the right to say "nigger" because you adopted a black child.

[Rahul]

Yeah, using "retard" as a derogatory term totally makes you seem like an intelligent, rational individual. [/sarcasm]

The word retard is a derogatory word. It means to delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

The word retard is a derogatory word. It means to delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.

"Mental retardation" is a medical term. "Retarded" when used to mean "stupid" is offensive.

[rsb]

Yes it is meant to delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment. Just like Ayn Rand and Neitzche.

If you have no legs you don't object to paraplegic.

If you have no legs or arms you don't object to quadriplegic.

It would just be, retarded, like we all are, at one level or another. Do you want your retardation to slow you down? I try not to let mine do so.

[Rahul]

"Mental retardation" is a medical term. "Retarded" when used to mean "stupid" is offensive.

If someone attempts to make some advancement, like build a better road, or construct a more modern medical facility, and I somehow prevent or delay it from happening, am I being a retardant? Or acting in retarded manner?

Just playing with you, Futile. You know I love you.