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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 8:41 am
(March 11, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Lek Wrote: (March 11, 2014 at 9:45 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Hello. :-)
In part you're right, but what he meant was that ultimate truth can be found, within. (if we believe the story, one can assume Jesus meant that a life without God, will create an inner turmoil)
But...We don't need to believe in a Deity to live with peace, joy hope and love. Those things are the "truths" of a content life. With or without a belief in a Deity.
Yes?
I don't know a single person, theist or atheist, who is truly content.
I am.
I have a beautiful wife whom I love very much.(Kichi)
I have kids and grand kids that think I'm pretty awesome.
I have a great group of friends.
I have a job that I enjoy and has meaning(bus mechanic) with a bunch of guys that make work fun.
And I have a hobby that is both fun and dangerous.
So yes, I am content with my life.
Ok, more money etc would be nice, but not essential. And I won't lose sleep over it.
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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 8:49 am
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2014 at 8:52 am by *Deidre*.)
Yes, I think that contentment is more of a state of mind, a persistent mind set while "happiness" is more temporal and fleeting. But, we all may define things a little differently from each other.
To me, contentment doesn't "hinge" on how others make me feel or some outward "source." I think it has to come from inside of ourselves. Many religious people are depressed and live in turmoil so if God is this "answer" to cultivating contentment, I don't see that principle in action enough with the religious.
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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 10:00 am
(March 11, 2014 at 1:45 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: As Requested 
That's it. Red is not purple.
Soaked with BLOOD.... it may look Purple.
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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 10:12 am
(March 12, 2014 at 10:00 am)ronedee Wrote: (March 11, 2014 at 1:45 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: As Requested
That's it. Red is not purple.
Soaked with BLOOD.... it may look Purple.
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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 10:13 am
(March 12, 2014 at 10:00 am)ronedee Wrote: (March 11, 2014 at 1:45 pm)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: As Requested
That's it. Red is not purple.
Soaked with BLOOD.... it may look Purple.
Again, but with less crazy?
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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 10:14 am
Maybe it was translucent and was just showing the red blood and purple bruises all over Jesus' body (as seen in Mel Gibson's smartphone video of the real Jesus)?
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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 10:18 am
(March 12, 2014 at 10:13 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (March 12, 2014 at 10:00 am)ronedee Wrote: Soaked with BLOOD.... it may look Purple.
Again, but with less crazy?
Point is: Who cares what color robe they saw? They all saw the crucifixtion.
When you are in a life & death situation.... do you notice someones garment color...or hairstyle?
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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 10:30 am
(March 12, 2014 at 10:18 am)ronedee Wrote: When you are in a life & death situation.... do you notice someones garment color...or hairstyle?
This is a tough dichotomy. I'll take, hairstyle! Did I get it right?
You're missing the point, ronedee. The whole point of this thread.
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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 10:32 am
(March 12, 2014 at 8:49 am)Deidre32 Wrote: Yes, I think that contentment is more of a state of mind, a persistent mind set while "happiness" is more temporal and fleeting. But, we all may define things a little differently from each other.
To me, contentment doesn't "hinge" on how others make me feel or some outward "source." I think it has to come from inside of ourselves. Many religious people are depressed and live in turmoil so if God is this "answer" to cultivating contentment, I don't see that principle in action enough with the religious.
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Thanks, and hugs right back at ya. 
I must say that I'm pretty content too. Most of my life I suffered from depression and a range of other things, but now I'm enjoying life. As Zen badger says, a bit of extra money won't hurt though, lol.
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RE: Totally NOT a debate about the veracity of the gospels
March 12, 2014 at 10:40 am
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2014 at 10:42 am by ronedee.)
(March 12, 2014 at 10:30 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: (March 12, 2014 at 10:18 am)ronedee Wrote: When you are in a life & death situation.... do you notice someones garment color...or hairstyle?
This is a tough dichotomy. I'll take, hairstyle! Did I get it right?
You're missing the point, ronedee. The whole point of this thread.
What? "straining on a gnat, and swallowing a camel"? Look I didn't read every post in this thread... only the OP....but:
There is more reason to believe the Gospel, just because of its small discrepancies!
If every account therein were exact, what meaning would it have on a personal level? We all see things differently, depending on our state of being at that time! That's the purpose of garnering as many witnesses as possible to get a complete account!
I can't believe I'm needing to explain all this!! Is this a slow news day?
The message "IS" the POINT! Period
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