Vaccines are a plot by big pharma!

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

People disagreeing with you on the internet makes you paranoid? You must be paranoid all the time.

[Kayenneh]

Just a question, has there been medications that have killed many people, and then withdrawn?.

Lots, though they might not have killed, they definitely maimed, e.g. thalidomide. But as it was earlier stated, medicine and vaccine are in no way synonymous.

For those of you who may be too thick to understand what I'm saying, no, people probably have gotten sick and died from medication and/or vaccines. But those numbers are almost certainly very small compared to the number of people who have died because we didn't have medication or vaccines. I mean, think about it: in 2012, 1.6 million people died from AIDS. If we had a vaccine for it or a medication that could cure it, I would have gladly given it to them, even if 1,000 or so people died.

A Finnish lab, that has developed a HIV vaccine that worked really well in test animals, is starting the second phase of testing it on humans. Looks really promising!

OK, I can see that everyone here doesn't agree with my way of thinking, and I don't agree with yours, this discussion is getting out of hand, and we are all getting too personal, I don't like making enemies.
So I'll leave this thread now, as I have said i have schzophrenia, and because of this I am becoming parodoid, as you also said I am not educated, yes I never did good at school, but I do have the sense to know what is right for me, I have said things to you that I am not proud of and I am sorry for that, yes you did get to me and I am hurt, so I will leave now, thank you.

Even though we have clashed heads in this thread, don't worry. I try my hardest to separate the discussion from the person, so even though we definitely don't see an eye to eye here, hopefully there will be another topic where we can (the art thread, perhaps? I've seen your paintings )

[psychoslice]

Hi, I don't want to just ignore you, so to futilethewinds , yes I am paranoid a lot of times, but I have good reason, I was raped as a kid, I'm a male, I was shot by someone along the high while driving my car, so yes I am paranoid.
And thank you Kayenneh , yes I hope we do meet each other on good terms, and that goes for the rest here.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

Hi, I don't want to just ignore you, so to futilethewinds , yes I am paranoid a lot of times, but I have good reason, I was raped as a kid, I'm a male, I was shot by someone along the high while driving my car, so yes I am paranoid.
And thank you Kayenneh , yes I hope we do meet each other on good terms, and that goes for the rest here.

But how does a discussion about vaccination on the internet lead to more paranoia? I mean, do you think anyone on these forums cares enough about your opinion to track you down and try to harm you?

[KichigaiNeko]

Hi, I don't want to just ignore you, so to futilethewinds , yes I am paranoid a lot of times, but I have good reason, I was raped as a kid, I'm a male, I was shot by someone along the high while driving my car, so yes I am paranoid.
And thank you Kayenneh , yes I hope we do meet each other on good terms, and that goes for the rest here.

PTSD? How is your treatment going?

It is one of the hardest disorders to live with.

[psychoslice]

Hi, I don't want to just ignore you, so to futilethewinds , yes I am paranoid a lot of times, but I have good reason, I was raped as a kid, I'm a male, I was shot by someone along the high while driving my car, so yes I am paranoid.
And thank you Kayenneh , yes I hope we do meet each other on good terms, and that goes for the rest here.

But how does a discussion about vaccination on the internet lead to more paranoia? I mean, do you think anyone on these forums cares enough about your opinion to track you down and try to harm you?

You don't know anything about schizophrenia do you ?.

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Hi, I don't want to just ignore you, so to futilethewinds , yes I am paranoid a lot of times, but I have good reason, I was raped as a kid, I'm a male, I was shot by someone along the high while driving my car, so yes I am paranoid.
And thank you Kayenneh , yes I hope we do meet each other on good terms, and that goes for the rest here.

PTSD? How is your treatment going?

It is one of the hardest disorders to live with.

I'm ok, been in the acute mental ward a few times lately, but that's ok, I like the pudding they serve lol.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

You don't know anything about schizophrenia do you ?.

Very little. Just what I read when this idiot neuropsychologist told me I might have it. Oh, and I suspect my rebound ex might have been schizophrenic. I just want to try to understand what's going on in your head. Please explain. What about this conversation made you more paranoid?

[psychoslice]

You don't know anything about schizophrenia do you ?.

Very little. Just what I read when this idiot neuropsychologist told me I might have it. I just want to try to understand what's going on in your head. Please explain. What about this conversation made you more paranoid?

It wasn't wanting to be right or wrong, its was when it started to get personal, and yes i was drawn into that also, the words that cut me spin around and around in my head, I hear the words in a voice that wont shut up.
But I am learning, this is the first forum I have been on that everyone swears at each other, which can be good, I just think I will have to get use to it, its me, not you I know that.

[My imaginary friend is GOD]

It wasn't wanting to be right or wrong, its was when it started to get personal, and yes i was drawn into that also, the words that cut me spin around and around in my head, I hear the words in a voice that wont shut up.
But I am learning, this is the first forum I have been on that everyone swears at each other, which can be good, I just think I will have to get use to it, its me, not you I know that.

I think I understand that. A part of me is always bringing me down, insulting me the way my emotionally abusive and psychologically manipulative biological father did. It's taken a lot of years of therapy to make that part of me smaller and less dominant than the rest of my conscious mind.

BTW, I have suffered PTSD as well, and I haven't dealt with it yet because confronting it causes me to revert to my younger self, who was scared all the time, and that's really not conducive to completing my education.

[psychoslice]

It wasn't wanting to be right or wrong, its was when it started to get personal, and yes i was drawn into that also, the words that cut me spin around and around in my head, I hear the words in a voice that wont shut up.
But I am learning, this is the first forum I have been on that everyone swears at each other, which can be good, I just think I will have to get use to it, its me, not you I know that.

I think I understand that. A part of me is always bringing me down, insulting me the way my emotionally abusive and psychologically manipulative biological father did. It's taken a lot of years of therapy to make that part of me smaller and less dominant than the rest of my conscious mind.

BTW, I have suffered PTSD as well, and I haven't dealt with it yet because confronting it causes me to revert to my younger self, who was scared all the time, and that's really not conducive to completing my education.

Yes my parents always put me down also, I could never be right at anything, and no matter how enlightened we are the mind body organism remembers it, so it can take years before its dissolved from the memory.

Yes I understand how you must feel with PTSD, it took me years to really deal with it head on. I can talk about my issues now where as before I would just cry thinking about it, that night I got shot in my car I live everyday in some way.

That's interesting what you said about revert to my younger self, my brother got killed in an accident when he was only 16, since then my mum and dad became alcoholics, I was only 14 then, and after that my whole life was in chaos. I was a very sensitive boy then and as I got older I never left the mind set of being 14, I didn't really grow up until I was about 40, the reason I would revert back to that age was because before then I was happy.

I hope you get through you ordeal, just keep reminding yourself its only life, there is always going to be what we call good and bad, we just need to not cling to either, but enjoy every moment as it comes.