Would any of you drive a car made by Darwin's ideas?

[Chad32]

If god wanted us to travel 55 mph everywhere, he would have made us cheetahs.

[JuliaL]

I do drive a car based on neo-Darwinian methods.
The engineers designing said cars are the product of these methods and so the cars they design are, one step further along, also such products.
(It works just fine, thank you very kindly)

[professor]

Every one of your respsonses (wether you realize it or not) included intellegence having been added to the "evolutionary development" of each item. However, the Darwinian scheme has no such provision.

[Ben Davis]

Every one of your respsonses (wether you realize it or not) included intellegence having been added to the "evolutionary development" of each item. However, the Darwinian scheme has no such provision.

Nonsense. In my example, I introduced a method of selection. Nothing more. In the examples given by Esquilax, the 'mutations' are random, only the selection-pressures are predetermined (as they are in the real world).

Intelligence is not required.

[Mister Agenda]

I build machines, am involved in design, and testing.
We make intensive effort to eliminate all randomness from our products.

Every machine begins with an idea and a bank of historical engineering knowledge, plus thousands of hours of development.
This is the real world.
Not the land of Academia.

Recently, one of the engineers said that a suggestion from the 6Sigma people was to take one of the bearings we are dealing with- walk it around the yard and put it back in the machine.
To test "Randomness". We all laughed at such idiocy.
Then, I thought- where would such a stupid idea come from?
Where else? From school.
Now, who is up for owning a Darwinmobile?

I don't believe you're actually too stupid to know that automobiles did not spring from the brow of engineers in their modern form; but are the result of centuries of experimentation (i.e., trial-and-error) from the first jury-rigged 'rollers' forward.

We ARE driving Darwin's car, in the sense that it has evolved over a long period of time into its present form. If engineers were omniscient, I would expect them to skip to the final product, but they have human limitations.

Your anecdote is almost surely a lie.

Try to do better.

[Alex K]

Every one of your respsonses (wether you realize it or not) included intellegence having been added to the "evolutionary development" of each item. However, the Darwinian scheme has no such provision.

Coming back to my question, can you please describe what you mean by the Darwinian scheme and what the idea of Darwinian evolution is?

[Mister Agenda]

Every one of your respsonses (wether you realize it or not) included intellegence having been added to the "evolutionary development" of each item. However, the Darwinian scheme has no such provision.

That doesn't make your post less stupid, but thanks for the newsflash that things made by people are made by people. You sure got us! Funny how even inserting an intelligence doesn't eliminate the need for evolution. Technological evolution is faster than biological evolution...because of intelligent design. Without intelligent design you get evolution at the speed of biology.

[max-greece]

Welcome to your all new Christocar. Please read the following instructions carefully:

This car is perfect in every way. If anything ever goes wrong always remember that it is your fault.

The car does not require a key. In order for it to start you have to A/S/K. If the car is convinced that you are A/S/K'ing sincerely it will then start.

The engine bay is totally sealed. You do not need to look in there - you just need to believe that it is the most powerful engine ever made.

The braking system is our all new dual servo assisted prayer model. Just stamp both feet on the brake pedal and if your prayers are sincere the car will stop.

If the car fails to stop you weren't praying properly.

Now, despite the fact that you have bought the car you do not own it. In fact you owe it. This is a fine difference but the car has the power to make even a worthless worm like you into a "Lord of the Road". You are now a servant of the car and must cater to its every whim. It will never communicate its desires to you directly, of course, but our trained mechanics of God will inform you at each service what you must do / how much you must give in order to re-pay the debt. Now you can never actually repay such an enormous debt but even the minuscule amount a pathetic creature like you can manage counts.

The large cross on the front of the car must never be removed. There have been a few complaints (obviously from non-believers) that the hood ornament blocks the forward view. This is irrelevant. If you have faith you will never crash.

Because we care so deeply about you servicing is regular. Each Sunday morning you must attend (bring your wallet). Services typically take about 2 hours and you will be informed on any special services you might be required to take part in.

In the spirit of that great hymn "Onward Christian Soldiers" there is no reverse gear. If anyone should ever write "Backward Christian Soldiers" we will install one at your next service.

As you will never be travelling backwards in the car please take a moment to admire the stained glass rear window. Sadly the many requests for rear view mirrors (to allow constant admiring of the window) cannot be fulfilled as it is the opinion of the manufacturer that there is too great a risk of the mirror's misuse for admiring oneself. Vanity is not to be encouraged amongst our owners.

Your in dash GPS unit is preprogrammed with every single Church in the world (well - not the Catholic ones obviously, nor the Orthodox ones - we don't trust them either). We have found it is perfectly possible to do all navigation by Churches. If this does not work for you in your country then we must assume you are not in a Christian country and you are therefore on your own.

[Chad32]

Every one of your respsonses (wether you realize it or not) included intellegence having been added to the "evolutionary development" of each item. However, the Darwinian scheme has no such provision.

That's because you're talking about a man made device. Cars don't evolve. Watches don't evolve. Animals do.

[Alex K]

I really don't know what exactly the problem of the OP is? Does xe argue against the use of Darwinian algorithms in engineering? And does xe try to argue against the theory of evolution in biology by claiming that it doesn't work in engineering?