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March 18, 2014 at 2:18 pm
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(March 17, 2014 at 9:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You would say that if you hadn't been following the discussion perhaps Deidre.
Your unwillingness to listen to reason would be the pitchfork reflex 
We can't actually hear the voices in your head.
You have presented no valid reasoning here to support "well duh, I already told yuh," which is the most substantial claim you've put forward:
That you've already answered the OP in a meaningful fashion.
That's it. Because you seem to believe a claim makes something true.
(March 18, 2014 at 6:37 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: (March 18, 2014 at 6:31 am)tor Wrote: So he is a pretends to be a christian while being an atheist? It's hard to tell. When anyone presses him on the idiocy of Christian belief he equivocates by suggesting, "oh, that is stupid! But THAT'S not what I belIeve!" The typical non-answer.
Look at his avatar. He's just here to troll, and derail threads.
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RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
March 18, 2014 at 2:29 pm
(March 18, 2014 at 9:48 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: (March 18, 2014 at 8:51 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Thought you were a biblical literalist.
Does that not clash with "He who believes in me shall never die?
Don't expect a straightforward or coherent response.
Well naturally not. I just enjoy people who are differently irrational to me.
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RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
March 18, 2014 at 2:43 pm
(March 18, 2014 at 8:51 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: (March 18, 2014 at 8:48 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Worms eat you.
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Thought you were a biblical literalist.
Does that not clash with "He who believes in me shall never die?
Oh it's you! 
So what if you then don't believe half an hour later? Does your eternal soul fluctuate precariously and God sits there waving hello and goodbye?
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RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
March 18, 2014 at 2:50 pm
(March 18, 2014 at 2:43 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (March 18, 2014 at 8:51 am)Jacob(smooth) Wrote: Thought you were a biblical literalist.
Does that not clash with "He who believes in me shall never die?
Oh it's you!
So what if you then don't believe half an hour later? Does your eternal soul fluctuate precariously and God sits there waving hello and goodbye?
I dunno! I'm asking you!
And there pickup you were expecting a less than straightforward response! Showed you.
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RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
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March 18, 2014 at 4:39 pm
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"Literalist" to me means an accurate representation of the original meaning of the text. See John H Walton.
Like you Jacob, I have little to zero interest in heaven and hell where they don't affect us here and now. Of course they do affect us here and now, but the question is framed specifically at what we are not interested in. But let me share my thoughts on it with you...
I believe that God is love > good > just. My view of the world is very different to a person who imagines the world to be unjust. With a worldview framed by injustice, that person mocks believers in a just God because they cannot understand how justice is served. It is in the eternal soul that justice is served.
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March 18, 2014 at 4:43 pm
Is there evidence for God to present as an answer to the OP in your worldview, or does God > love > good > just not have any empirical support?
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March 18, 2014 at 4:45 pm
Quote:"Literalist" to me means an accurate representation of the original meaning of the text.
Thats the first time I've come across that as a definition. Interesting...
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RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
March 18, 2014 at 5:10 pm
(March 18, 2014 at 4:39 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: With a worldview framed by injustice, that person mocks believers in a just God because they cannot understand how justice is served. It is in the eternal soul that justice is served.
If you even have a clue as to what you're saying rather than just mindlessly stringing together words that have no meaning, please explain what exactly an "eternal soul" is and how it is "served justice."
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RE: Evidence for god? Convince me! [CHALLENGE]
March 18, 2014 at 5:46 pm
You so funny pickup 
All we need to understand of a soul here is that it survives death.
In the postmortem heaven and hell God serves justice not met in life.
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