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Einsteins theories are obsolete
#41
RE: Einsteins theories are obsolete
You clearly know nothing at all about the scientific method. Do you really think Einstein's theories of Relativity would still be accepted today by the scientific community if the results they predicted were not verified by mountains of experimental evidence? If you answer yes, you're just stupid. If you answer no, that's the first modicum of honesty you've shown in your short time here, and perhaps you won't be banned for being an insufferable cunt.
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#42
RE: Einsteins theories are obsolete
(April 8, 2014 at 7:29 am)Galacticer Wrote: and so there are no applicatiosn that need relatvity, or quantum theory for that matter, all nonsense.

Global Positioning Systems that communicate with satellites have to be programmed to account for relativistic effects, i.e. real world effects that can be measured and accounted for. Without these adjustments your GPS would not work properly and you'd be lost.

The components used in computers and lasers use technology built on elements of quantum theory. If you are adamant that it is all 'nonsense' then do the right thing, throw your PC out the window and stop posting your ignorant-ass opinions all over the internet, I'm sure we will all feel better for that.

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#43
RE: Einsteins theories are obsolete
Admins, can we institute a literacy test for new members?
I think this would go a long way to filtering out the idiots.
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#44
RE: Einsteins theories are obsolete
(April 8, 2014 at 6:05 am)Galacticer Wrote: Yes, it seems Einsteins theories are obsolete.

Einsten stole a lot and plagiarized from decent people like Lorentz and Poincare.
Furthermore, it is now obvous his theories are ridiculous to say the least.
And there is no good and solid experimental proof and there really are no applications for his bad bad and very flawed theories.
(As there really are no good applications from 'modern physics" at all, none whatsoever.)


So, it's time to stop with the Einsteinian (Relativity) nonsens.

And your explanation for the precession of Mercury's orbit is ... ?

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(April 8, 2014 at 7:21 am)Galacticer Wrote:
(April 8, 2014 at 7:18 am)Aractus Wrote: Care to back up that assertion of yours with evidence?

there a ye go


Quote:To offset these two effects, the GPS engineers reset the clock rates, slowing them down before launch by 39,000 nanoseconds a day. They then proceed to tick in orbit at the same rate as ground clocks, and the system "works." Ground observers can indeed pin-point their position to a high degree of precision. In (Einstein) theory, however, it was expected that because the orbiting clocks all move rapidly and with varying speeds relative to any ground observer (who may be anywhere on the Earth's surface), and since in Einstein's theory the relevant speed is always speed relative to the observer, it was expected that continuously varying relativistic corrections would have to be made to clock rates. This in turn would have introduced an unworkable complexity into the GPS. But these corrections were not made. Yet "the system manages to work, even though they use no relativistic corrections after launch," Van Flandern said. "They have basically blown off Einstein."

http://www.ldolphin.org/vanFlandern/

Tom Van Flanden doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

The clock rate on the satellites is adjusted for relativistic effects.

The 19 seconds he's talking about are the offset of GPS time from UTC. This is because UTC time is adjusted for earth rotation while GPS is not.
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#45
RE: Einsteins theories are obsolete
(April 8, 2014 at 6:05 am)Galacticer Wrote: Yes, it seems Einsteins theories are obsolete.

Einsten stole a lot and plagiarized from decent people like Lorentz and Poincare.
Furthermore, it is now obvous his theories are ridiculous to say the least.
And there is no good and solid experimental proof and there really are no applications for his bad bad and very flawed theories.
(As there really are no good applications from 'modern physics" at all, none whatsoever.)


So, it's time to stop with the Einsteinian (Relativity) nonsens.

No solid experimental evidence?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_...relativity

Wrong.

Fuck off, troll.
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#46
RE: Einsteins theories are obsolete
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_ge...relativity


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#47
RE: Einsteins theories are obsolete
(April 8, 2014 at 7:36 am)Galacticer Wrote: so, you are proving my point that it is about a belief system and not something which is very logical and rational, far from it.
(science really is disguided form of religion, yes I know how absurd thism may seem at first, however it really is)
Should've just stated this up front and made clear what you were trying to prove. Not that it seemed to fool anyone, but we've seen so many different flavors of crazy here that it's good to know from the beginning.

There are certainly a lot of people who accept science on its face, particularly the more complex and involved fields. The difference being that scientific hypotheses and theories are testable and falsifiable (if they are not, they aren't very scientific). Most religious claims are neither testable nor falsifiable; you must accept them at face value, and I don't think that there is a single person who has ever accepted every religion's teachings even though one is just as impossible to disprove as any other.
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#48
RE: Einsteins theories are obsolete
JesusHChrist, another Poe/Troll? Or a garden variety doofus?
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#49
Einsteins theories are obsolete
(April 8, 2014 at 6:57 am)Galacticer Wrote:
(April 8, 2014 at 6:19 am)Esquilax Wrote: So, are you going to do more than just shit all over the work of other people? Like, say... an explanation? :angel:

shit all over the work of other people? Does this imply their work must be any good, and may not be shitted on? your just jumping to conclusions.

Do plese tell if you have found anything good that has come out of this bullshit, there is none.

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#50
RE: Einsteins theories are obsolete
The hubris of some people never ceases to amaze me.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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