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June 7, 2014 at 10:51 pm (This post was last modified: June 7, 2014 at 10:52 pm by Ryantology.)
(June 5, 2014 at 7:54 pm)JimmyNeutron Wrote: We can apply this same system to english letters as well. Note that we must stop at 400 or else we wouldn't be using the hebrew system, thus the last for letters of the english alphabet must be mapped to 0:
A = 1
B = 2
C = 3
D = 4
E = 5
F = 6
G = 7
H = 8
I = 9
J = 10
K = 20
L = 30
M = 40
N = 50
O = 60
P = 70
Q = 80
R = 90
S = 100
T = 200
U = 300
V = 400
W = 0
X = 0
Y = 0
Z = 0
Add them together yourself if you like. Your result will be 666. This could be dismissed as a coincidence.
Jimmy one question what is your statement or posture towards the unfulfilled bible prophecies? I'm not talking about those that the christians are still expecting to happen. I want to aboard the ones that specially should have happened by now and didn't.
(June 5, 2014 at 8:23 pm)JimmyNeutron Wrote: Anyone care to provide a logical counterpoint, or are you just going to try hard to be clever and use curse words in place of reason?
You have an end goal in mind, and you're picking out all the pieces that add up to what you want and are ignoring the rest. A perfect example of that (previously mentioned) is you're taking an English phrase and running it through a Hebrew letter->number converter. What would his title be in Hebrew? Would it still work? Why are we even using Hebrew? Wasn't the NT written in Greek? How does this work if you use the Greek alphabet instead?
This is even worse than numerology, and numerology doesn't deserve any time in an adult discussion.
June 9, 2014 at 10:31 am (This post was last modified: June 9, 2014 at 10:33 am by Mudhammam.)
(June 5, 2014 at 7:54 pm)JimmyNeutron Wrote: This one is kinda complicated, so here goes:
The Book of Revelation was written around the year 95 A.D. You can read up on that HERE.
In Revelation 17 an angel is explaining the vision of John. He speaks about seven hills, saying "They are seven Kings; five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; and when he comes, he must remain a little while." This verse is translated various ways, all to the effect that the 7th king must reign for a short time.
So he's saying that there are seven kings that all have something in common, that make them all part of this set of seven. It then says that the beast is the eighth and is of the seven. So the antichrist shares this same commonality with the seven kings. It is widely accepted that the antichrist is likely to be descended from the Romans, specifically the Holy Roman Empire. Here is a big reason why:
There have been exactly seven emperors of the Holy Roman Empire with the name "Charles" and you can read a complete list HERE. You will notice that the 7th Charles reigned for only about 3 years. The logical next step in following this lead is to look for an eighth ruler of the HRE named Charles. Sure enough, there is an heir to the throne of the United Kingdom (which is descended, of course, from the HRE) who is named Charles. The current Prince of Wales. He is set to become King of Great Britain after the current monarch.
Now, let's take a look at more of the prophecy that focuses on the identity of the antichrist. Revelation 13 contains one of the most famous passages in the Bible: "Here is the wisdom: let him who has understanding calculate the number of beast, for it is the number of a man. His number is 666." Virtually everyone knows of this piece of scripture. Many people have tried to calculate the number of the beast using various number systems. For example, increments of 6. A = 6, B = 12, etc.
There is only one system that actually makes sense here, the system of hebrew gematria. This is the system with which John would have been familiar. In hebrew, there are no numerical digits. Instead they use hebrew letters as numbers. Aleph, the first letter, is 1. Bet, the second, is 2, and so on. Once you reach the 10th letter, you start counting by tens. The 11th letter is 20, the 12th letter is 30, etc. When you reach 100, you count by hundreds. There are 22 letters in the hebrew alephbet. This means that the highest number is 400. This chart shows it all (hebrew is written right to left):
We can apply this same system to english letters as well. Note that we must stop at 400 or else we wouldn't be using the hebrew system, thus the last for letters of the english alphabet must be mapped to 0:
A = 1
B = 2
C = 3
D = 4
E = 5
F = 6
G = 7
H = 8
I = 9
J = 10
K = 20
L = 30
M = 40
N = 50
O = 60
P = 70
Q = 80
R = 90
S = 100
T = 200
U = 300
V = 400
W = 0
X = 0
Y = 0
Z = 0
The official title of the man in question is "Charles, Prince of Wales" or as some call him "Prince Charles of Wales." Either way, the following still applies:
C = 3
H = 8
A = 1
R = 90
L = 30
E = 5
S = 100
P = 70
R = 90
I = 9
N = 50
C = 3
E = 5
O = 60
F = 6
W = 0
A = 1
L = 30
E = 5
S = 100
Add them together yourself if you like. Your result will be 666. This could be dismissed as a coincidence. But that explanation becomes less likely when you consider the following:
The name of the man in question in hebrew letters adds up to 666 as well. These two languages are important for this reason. If the Prince of Wales is the man spoken of in Revelation, then his name should add up to 666 in his native language (english in this case), as this is his given name. It should also add up in hebrew, as this is the language of the people to whom God was giving this prophecy. I won't go into it here, but the name also adds up to 666 in Greek, which was the trade language of John's day.
So, his name matches the other 7 kings (Charles)
His name adds up to 666 in English, Hebrew and Greek
The name "Charles" means "Manly" ("It is the number of a MAN")
What are your thoughts thus far? I am completely open for alternative explanation.
Silly humans. Man, your BFF God sure is a clever one, being so tricky and playing with numbers like that.
I saw Mickey Mouse in the sky once. I swear his face was in a cloud. All hail the Mouse King?