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Moral standards
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In an atheist world, where do the standards by which moral actions are measured come from?
". . . let the atheists themselves choose a god. They will find only one divinity who ever uttered their isolation; only one religion in which God seemed for an instant to be an atheist." -G. K. Chesterton
All people have moral standards in their roots.
RE: Moral standards
August 1, 2014 at 2:37 am
(This post was last modified: August 1, 2014 at 2:38 am by The Grand Nudger.)
You mean where do moral standards come from in this world? They "come from" people, where else?
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RE: Moral standards
August 1, 2014 at 2:46 am
(This post was last modified: August 1, 2014 at 2:47 am by GodsRevolt.)
(August 1, 2014 at 2:36 am)Baqal Wrote: All people have moral standards in their roots. By "roots" you mean . . . ? They just know? Or from their family or how they were raised? (August 1, 2014 at 2:37 am)Rhythm Wrote: You mean where do moral standards come from in this world? They "come from" people, where else? So what happens when people disagree about something based on moral grounds?
". . . let the atheists themselves choose a god. They will find only one divinity who ever uttered their isolation; only one religion in which God seemed for an instant to be an atheist." -G. K. Chesterton
 (August 1, 2014 at 2:24 am)GodsRevolt Wrote: In an atheist world, where do the standards by which moral actions are measured come from? Same place Theists do, from society. ![[Image: mybannerglitter06eee094.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fo112%2Fpussinboots_photos%2FBikes%2Fmybannerglitter06eee094.gif) If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
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-By "roots" you mean . . . ? They just know? Or from their family or how they were raised? Well, yes, environmental influence also takes in account. But I think all humans on Earth can come to a universal agreement about what's moral and what is not.  (August 1, 2014 at 2:46 am)GodsRevolt Wrote: So what happens when people disagree about something based on moral grounds? Argument and evidence can be produced based on the reality we live in as to which moral stance produced the maximum benefit to conscious entities. It's exactly what you'd expect in a world without some unconnected law commander on high; a world where people don't get everything right immediately, but learn better moral values by reasoning them out. A short look at our history shows that this is also the world we live in, surprisingly enough.
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Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (August 1, 2014 at 3:05 am)Esquilax Wrote:(August 1, 2014 at 2:46 am)GodsRevolt Wrote: So what happens when people disagree about something based on moral grounds? Maximum benefit? Morality is based on the largest amount of gain? Such as killing one man to save a thousand? What about killing one baby to save two elderly yet healthy people? I think I am a bit leery of the the idea of "benefit" in morality.
". . . let the atheists themselves choose a god. They will find only one divinity who ever uttered their isolation; only one religion in which God seemed for an instant to be an atheist." -G. K. Chesterton
 Quote:So what happens when people disagree about something based on moral grounds? Aunty Entity generally has us fight it out in the Thunderdome. Honestly, when are your lot going to come up with an original question? This question has been answered about 10 000 times just on this forum. A quick perusal of atheist literature would have provided you with our position on morality and moral authority. Boru
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RE: Moral standards
August 1, 2014 at 3:31 am
(This post was last modified: August 1, 2014 at 3:32 am by GodsRevolt.)
(August 1, 2014 at 2:53 am)Baqal Wrote: @GodsRevolt What is the standard that they measure it by? Two people arguing a moral difficulty, what does the third person say, do, or show that ends the argument? (August 1, 2014 at 2:52 am)Zen Badger Wrote:(August 1, 2014 at 2:24 am)GodsRevolt Wrote: In an atheist world, where do the standards by which moral actions are measured come from? If history had ended up differently and we all lived in a Nazi society, would that be moral society?
". . . let the atheists themselves choose a god. They will find only one divinity who ever uttered their isolation; only one religion in which God seemed for an instant to be an atheist." -G. K. Chesterton
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