Obesity

[Ravenshire]

Explain

Why? If you can't figure it out... Seriously Drich, it's not hard to see your straw-men. You make then sooooo obvious.

[Endo]

What about cripples, retards, and people with an incurable diseases? Tell us mein fuhrur how they make you sick as well. Tell us what your final solution would be to cure the world of this plague... Oh and dont forget about das udens as well. Tell us how the world would be at peace if not for das udens.

Just curious, how many generations are you from wwii? Who's side did your grandfather fight on?

2. My mother's father was a cobbler for the Allies.

And how about you go fuck yourself on this one? Obesity is a habituated condition, your own choices led to your own problems. I, on the other hand, with Type 1 diabetes, means that someone fucked the wrong person, and their offspring fucked the wrong person, all down the chain to me. I don't get a say in "having" Diabetes. You can be damn sure that I'm going to try my hardest to keep from getting unlivably obese though. I didn't choose to be a strain on society, but the obese do. Same for the "cripples, retards and incurables", not many of them CHOSE their disability.

[psychoslice]

Its a pity we don't eat each other, I've seen some subtle and fat humans that I wouldn't mind having a little nibble on.

[Ravenshire]

I commend people who try to lose weight, but if they can't, then they aren't trying hard enough. Everyone can lose weight and keep it off. Its about how determined you are.

I have to respectfully disagree with this point. While true in a vast majority of cases, mine included (but at least I'm doing something about mine*), there are medical conditions that cause severe, even morbid obesity that is very much beyond the control of the individual. Hypothyroidism and Cushing Syndrome come to mind.

*No, I'm not one of those people who hasn't seen his dick (except in the mirror) in over 20 years, but at 220 I am just over the line of obese. My Ideal body weight is right around 175. 20% over is 210. Cutting back on sugar (unexpected but pleasant side effect of vaping as a smoking cessation method ) and getting off my ass and into the mountains for some serious calorie burning hikes has already cut 10 pounds off. This time next month I plan to be under the obesity line! The ultimate goal is 170 then maintain 165-170.

"Obesity is an abnormal accumulation of body fat, usually 20% or more over an individual's ideal body weight."
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[Elskidor]

What about cripples, retards, and people with an incurable diseases? Tell us mein fuhrur how they make you sick as well.

Yeah but, being obese is "curable" and it is usually self inflicted.

I'm a glutton half the time, but the other half I starve myself. I've been as low as 145 pounds as as big as 230 pounds, but anymore I'll force myself to slim down at the 200 mark. It is so easy to lose weight if you have your priorities straight, at least for guys. When it is diet time I drop a pound a day with a strict ass diet and exercise. .. I'm just to lazy to punish myself like that for a lifetime so I gradually pack it back on. I just don't get obese people and why they choose to live like that.

[Darkstar]

What about cripples, retards, and people with an incurable diseases? Tell us mein fuhrur how they make you sick as well. Tell us what your final solution would be to cure the world of this plague... Oh and dont forget about das udens as well. Tell us how the world would be at peace if not for das udens.

Just curious, how many generations are you from wwii? Who's side did your grandfather fight on?

I didn't expect Poe's law to come up in this thread, let alone so soon.

[psychoslice]

I think most obesity is self inflicted, it puts a lot of strain on the hospital system, as also tobacco.

[Mudhammam]

I've been on this forum for ten months and it has just occurred to me that drich seems to be rapidly losing his marbles the past few weeks. Seriously, at least before, when I disagreed with him, I thought his remarks were semi-thoughtful. But lately he just seems to be turning into a progressively bitter, hateful, nut job...unless I simply overestimated his wit from the beginning. I hope that guy gets some real help asap.

[Jacob(smooth)]

The use of the terms' cripples and retards' was an example of how hitler dehumanized and targeted the 'weak' parts of humanity and socially ear marked them for elimination from his ideal of a perfect soceity... This is in parallel with how diablo and yourself have used the word obese. You have taken the humanity out of fat people and sentenced them out casts. This was exactly what hitler did when the undesirables were labeled in his Germany.

No, that would be if he'd used terms like "bloater" "lard bucket" or "chunker". Obese is merely a medical term for a medical condition which is largely self inflicted, and which parents can inflict on children. . See the difference?

There are many such. I'm not obese, but I do drink too much single malt and eat the wrong things, which will probably shave a decade off my life. My choice but I don't pretend that it's "diversity". Nobody claims that alcohol abuse is a normal variant. Nor does anyone claim that people who drink a bit much should be forces into detox. Nor does society tolerate parents who encourage alcohol abuse in children.

You know what the preferred term for obesity is in the NHS is at the moment? "Patients with complex needs". What a pile of shit. It's not complex at all. In the vast majority of cases they are obese because they eat all the pies and never exercise. If you can't see the difference between that and the national genocide your moral compass is just plain broken.

[rexbeccarox]

*ahem*

Darkstar, I think you meant Godwin's Law


As to the discussion, obesity is linked to a lot of things; nature and nurture. I'm thin and my sister is big; we have the same parents. She binges while I starve; she craves a lot of unhealthy food while I pretty much can't stand junk food; She bugs me about my eating habits, but I never do her. We were raised by the same parents, both with food issues of their own, and we turned out quite different. She spent a year losing over 100 LBs- she looked amazing- only to gain it back, plus some. She "jokes" that the only caloric intake I get is from my beloved beer.

I watched my sister grow up, and not once have I blamed her for being fat. It's not like she wants to be; it's not like she hasn't done as much in her power that she is capable of. It's a combination of our parents' obsession with weight (my mom's pretty big, and dieted openly for most of our lives), the teasing she got at a kid, and food-as-a bribe. It truly was child abuse. I got the same from them, but I manifested it differently.