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How to disprove god
October 8, 2014 at 2:19 pm
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2014 at 2:22 pm by dyresand.)
He is all power all knowing and omniscient and is every where.
now now now we know this to be false and a laughing matter but lets
take a look at it from a scientific point of view. Matter cannot be created
nor destroyed. Matter can broken down into energy and energy back into
matter. God is all powerful but there is a finite amount of energy and mass
in the universe. So people and Christians will say Magic so they are saying god pulls a whole universe out of his ass... I don't like that so lets debunk god. Since E=mc^2 is E=mc^3 now. God for the lack of a better term
would have limited power by default because of this. He would be everywhere and in everything. Christians cant say god is all powerful because E=mc^3 means he cant have infinite power because there is
finite power in the universe as well as mass. If he was all powerful and had unlimited energy which i said he doesn't where did that energy come from how did it come into existence and since i said he has limited energy he would have used more than enough energy to create a whole universe and i said there is finite energy and magic doesn't exist he would have successfully ended his own existence creating everything in universe. - but god isn't real. - stay tuned while i debunk the existence of hell and heaven.
Expanded god could be all powerful with infinite energy and power but where would that matter be for him to tap into it? and not to mention the energy it cant exist here in our universe because we know we have a finite amount to actually play around with if we ever get warp drives. who's to say when we stop killing each other over religion we say fuck earth.
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RE: How to disprove god
October 8, 2014 at 2:23 pm
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Apart from your questionable physics (what is E=mc^3 supposed to mean?), and that I don't precisely understand your argument, the loophole is easy: God can violate the conservation of Energy at will. It's an iffy concept in curved space anyways). Also, you don't know whether the amount of energy in the Universe is finite because you don't know whether the Universe is spatially finite. Even if ours were finite, there could be a multiverse.
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RE: How to disprove god
October 8, 2014 at 2:24 pm
Woah, slow your roll there dude. Might want to format your posts a bit so they're easier to read. Also, welcome, you might want to create a thread in the Introductions forum so folks can see it and say hi.
Also, your entire argument is predicated on the fact that God exists in and is constrained by the laws of our physical universe, which many Christians do not claim or hold to be true.
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RE: How to disprove god
October 8, 2014 at 2:31 pm
(October 8, 2014 at 2:23 pm)Alex K Wrote: Apart from your questionable physics (what is E=mc^3 supposed to mean?), and that I don't precisely understand your argument, the loophole is easy: God can violate the conservation of Energy at will. It's an iffy concept in curved space anyways). Also, you don't know whether the amount of energy in the Universe is finite because you don't know whether the Universe is spatially finite. Even if ours were finite, there could be a multiverse.
i forgot about that part where the universe is always expanding...
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RE: How to disprove god
October 8, 2014 at 2:32 pm
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(October 8, 2014 at 2:31 pm)dyresand Wrote: (October 8, 2014 at 2:23 pm)Alex K Wrote: Apart from your questionable physics (what is E=mc^3 supposed to mean?), and that I don't precisely understand your argument, the loophole is easy: God can violate the conservation of Energy at will. It's an iffy concept in curved space anyways). Also, you don't know whether the amount of energy in the Universe is finite because you don't know whether the Universe is spatially finite. Even if ours were finite, there could be a multiverse.
i forgot about that part where the universe is always expanding...
The expanding part isn't really the problem. The same objection could be raised in a steady state universe...
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RE: How to disprove god
October 8, 2014 at 2:34 pm
I think you might be able to disprove certain understandings of god. Yahweh as described in the OT for example can be shown to be at odds with the observable world. But, the idea of god generally, and some particular ideas of him can't be disproved. It's just that there is no evidence for them.
A friend of mine in high school claimed to believe in invisible purple nothings. When pressed, he explained that though they were invisible the were essentially purple, but that they had no mass, or other physical characteristics. Nor would the world be observably different should they be absent. A god with such characteristics could never be proved or disproved.
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RE: How to disprove god
October 17, 2014 at 5:13 pm
Ummm....
Like leprechauns, I can not disprove them. Yet I believe them to be fiction just the same. Curious....
Perhaps rather than profound or complex, it's just simple. Perhaps it's just that life leads me to believe a formless, eternal, superbeing of fable is not real. Perhaps?
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RE: How to disprove god
October 17, 2014 at 5:28 pm
And we are still waiting for proof god exists.
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RE: How to disprove god
October 17, 2014 at 5:31 pm
(October 17, 2014 at 5:28 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: And we are still waiting for proof god exists.
How about beautiful flowers and sunsets? Nuthin?
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RE: How to disprove god
October 17, 2014 at 5:32 pm
God submitting to an interview with Charlie Rose would help.
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