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RE: "But what about the moderates?"
December 16, 2014 at 11:18 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 10:07 pm)Beccs Wrote: (December 16, 2014 at 10:00 pm)simplemoss Wrote: Yeah because they're poor I'm not arguing Muslim nations have more right wing laws than white chritian societies
I just think its unfair too reffer too a fictional character from 1500 years ago as pedophile considering 99.9 % of people alive back then where too same exact same degree pedos
Well, I don't think Mohammed was fictional. I think there's enough evidence for his existence.
Of course many people back then would count as paedophiles these days. But very few of them are held up today by billions of people as the perfect man who seek to emulate him.
Look at the Taliban and ISIS, and other conservative Muslims who still think it's okay to force pre-pubescent girls to marry old men.
No, it's not the majority of Muslims, these are the extremists or conservatives among the billions. Just as the conservatives who are young Earth creationists among the Christians are a minority.
That doesn't mean we shouldn't speak out against them.
They speak out against themselves so no work needs to be done.
except brew a hot cup of folgers and sit back and amaze in their stupidity.
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RE: "But what about the moderates?"
December 16, 2014 at 11:44 pm
(December 16, 2014 at 9:04 pm)simplemoss Wrote: 50 years ago it was common for ww2 soldiers in the USA TOO COME HOME AND TAKE 13 YEAR OLD BRIDES when they were in their mid twenties.
Source, please.
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RE: "But what about the moderates?"
December 16, 2014 at 11:51 pm
(This post was last modified: December 16, 2014 at 11:53 pm by simplemoss.)
Lorreta Lynn married at 15 too a 21 year old veteran. A man who'd shed been dating since she was 13
This still happens in the USA today in Alabama as long as theirs parental consent a 14 year old girl can get married
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RE: "But what about the moderates?"
December 17, 2014 at 12:04 am
(December 16, 2014 at 11:51 pm)simplemoss Wrote: Lorreta Lynn married at 15 too a 21 year old veteran. A man who'd shed been dating since she was 13
This still happens in the USA today in Alabama as long as theirs parental consent a 14 year old girl can get married
So, in other words, you were talking through your ass.
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December 17, 2014 at 12:09 am
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Its common knowledge I don't really know how too source it with out just listing one example. Its legal still in the USA today in many states just googles usmarriagelaws
Are you saying it never happened?
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RE: "But what about the moderates?"
December 17, 2014 at 12:16 am
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(December 16, 2014 at 11:51 pm)simplemoss Wrote: Lorreta Lynn married at 15 too a 21 year old veteran. A man who'd shed been dating since she was 13
Wait, one marriage is a source for "it was common"? I'm asking for a source. Not an anecdote.
You said that "50 years ago it was common for ww2 soldiers in the USA TOO COME HOME AND TAKE 13 YEAR OLD BRIDES".
You will either source that claim to a reputable source, or you will retract it.
(December 17, 2014 at 12:09 am)simplemoss Wrote: Are you saying it never happened?
No, he's saying that one cited instance isn't a source for the matter being "common", Einstein.
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RE: "But what about the moderates?"
December 17, 2014 at 12:21 am
(December 17, 2014 at 12:09 am)simplemoss Wrote: Its common knowledge I don't really know how too source it with out just listing one example. Its legal still in the USA today in many states just googles usmarriagelaws
Are you saying it never happened?
So, in other words, you're just talking out your ass.
Your opinions are not facts.
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RE: "But what about the moderates?"
December 17, 2014 at 1:19 am
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_mar...of_America
Its currenly legal too marry 12 year old girls in some places in the usa
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RE: "But what about the moderates?"
December 17, 2014 at 1:36 am
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Hey, Vicki, you might have forgotten this, but I haven't. I'd appreciate the courtesy of an answer to my point.
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(December 17, 2014 at 1:19 am)simplemoss Wrote: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_mar...of_America
Its currenly legal too marry 12 year old girls in some places in the usa
You were asked to source a citation for your claim that it was common for returning GIs from WWII to marry 13-year-olds. Either source the claim, or withdraw it. It's not very hard. Tell us where you learnt this.
Realize that you're slurring a bunch of guys with a very broad brush. You need to have some very good data, or you need to retract, and shut the fuck up.
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RE: "But what about the moderates?"
December 17, 2014 at 9:14 am
(December 17, 2014 at 1:19 am)simplemoss Wrote: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_mar...of_America
Its currenly legal too marry 12 year old girls in some places in the usa
In two places, with parental and judicial consent. It is rare - you are now desperately talking out your ass.
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