girlish girls, manly men.

[Alex K]

Men are the natural decision makers. You guys don't like that for whatever reasons, but it's true. If you're male and you're not making decisions, you're not a man.

And being a real man according to your standards is important why? Anyways, with that username I can't help but take your word for it. My first decision is that you are full of it.

[John V]

Worked out fine. We're still friends and we didn't want to carry on a long distance relationship when I took up a job in NZ. He's still in Melbourne.

I notice you immediately homed in on that one aspect of what I said and ignored the rest.

Why is that?

Because it was the quickest and easiest way to note the failure of the relationship.

[thesummerqueen]

Because if he says anything other than "non-answer" he has to accept that his way of doing things isn't the only way of doing things and being happy or successful.

Or that his measure of success is the only one.

[The Valkyrie]

Worked out fine. We're still friends and we didn't want to carry on a long distance relationship when I took up a job in NZ. He's still in Melbourne.

I notice you immediately homed in on that one aspect of what I said and ignored the rest.

Why is that?

Because it was the quickest and easiest way to note the failure of the relationship.

Good non answer you have there.

Now answer my other points.

[John V]

And being a real man according to your standards is important why?

Because you'll be happier that way.

[The Valkyrie]

And being a real man according to your standards is important why?

Because you'll be happier that way.

No. You'd be happier as the dominant male with a subservient female in a relationship.

Most men are more evolved than that, in the West, these days.

Don't project your own preferences on others.

[Alex K]

And being a real man according to your standards is important why?

Because you'll be happier that way.

Can't argue with that as far as decision making is concerned. Making it about masculinity is a bit silly though, you know, sometimes, woman might be smarter than you and be better at making a decision. Sounds crazy, I know, but I've seen it with my own eye. Also, some men are particularly happy in meaningful partnerships in which both sides contribute eye to eye according to their character and desires. Again, sounds crazy, I know...

[John V]

Good non answer you have there.

Ah, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thanks!

Now answer my other points.

Well, you noted that compromise was necessary when you both tried to be "dominant." This supports my view that one party - the man - should take charge in the relationship. If two dominants naturally worked well together, you wouldn't have needed compromise.

[The Valkyrie]

Good non answer you have there.

Ah, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thanks!

Now answer my other points.

Well, you noted that compromise was necessary when you both tried to be "dominant." This supports my view that one party - the man - should take charge in the relationship. If two dominants naturally worked well together, you wouldn't have needed compromise.

Gotcha.

More utter nonsense.

Makes an assumption and ignores the reality of the situation.

[FatAndFaithless]

And Christians wonder why they have a reputation for seeing women as beneath men...