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RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
January 19, 2015 at 5:11 pm
It seriously bewilders me when members accuse staff of censorship. No ones back here in staff area with itchy fingers trying to do anyone in, and we don't keep track of every post a theist makes in hopes of banning them. Should action be warranted per a report--or forced as in this case, it's not something anyone likes to do. There was a theist not long ago who called Chtulhu a dictator and I had to laugh at that, because I know how off base that person was. This forum is run fairly and justly; perhaps one of few out there that actually are. Theists And atheists alike can say what they like, theists being especially welcome to do so, here. Fr0d0 forced himself out, simple as that. I'm sure an apology would be accepted, but I doubt the old hobbit has any humility left whatsoever to allow for such an action. Most ironically, he will likely end up at a forum that doEs censor his shit.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
January 19, 2015 at 5:11 pm
(January 19, 2015 at 5:08 pm)alpha male Wrote: And, as already noted, it's interesting that mods consider suggesting that someone is gay to be an attack.
I don't know your personal stance on homosexuality, but some christians see it as an insult and use it as such. It may not be seen as insulting or irritating after just one mention but after consistantly doing it.... well it might get frustrating. How many times did you do it?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
January 19, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Maybe it's because...
*drum roll*
... you're a theist and we all hate you!
Does that do it for you?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
These are rule breaking, by personal attack. Because we find you a valuable member, this serves as a verbal warning to reconsider your stance in offhanded personal attacks. If you wish to disobey, please state it right away, and save us all the trouble of further action. If you wish to go into christian persecution mode, go somewhere else. If you have a reasonable complaint, please use the suggestion forum.
-- The AtheistForums Staff --
(January 19, 2015 at 4:49 pm)LastPoet Wrote: What I want is evidence, for what alpha male has accused us of. You know, warning him for accusing other from being gay.
See above. Again, you issued the warning yourself.
Clearly you missed the point given by the multitude of links you were targetting another member in a very personal attack, not for what the attack was anyhow.
Ironic that I eventually banned TGAC some time ago, because, much like fr0d0, he suicided by cop too. That wasn't a pleasant decision for the staff either.
RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
January 19, 2015 at 5:17 pm
(January 19, 2015 at 5:08 pm)alpha male Wrote: If the person is breaking a rule, you are then yourself breaking a rule.
"If you are aware of a member breaking the rules, you are obligated to report them to the staff, either via the Report System or by sending one of the staff a PM."
And mods kudo'd your post...
Right, enough of this bullshit.
You need to seriously get to grips with what constitutes as flaming/trolling. Fr0d0 seemed to struggle with it too.
Simply telling someone what you think of them, is neither.
Telling someone over and over, targeting them constantly, is what constitutes as either of the above. It's fucking funny, that in your warning PM that you quoted yourself, we can see you doing just that. Targeting a specific member deliberately to get some kind of response. It's not so much about an individual insult. It's successive insults and the intent to provoke.
Now I'm going to call you a cunt. Because you are one. But that's not trolling or flaming. That's me telling you what I think of you. If I followed you around on different threads, consistently called you a cunt whenever I saw you and made accusations about you that weren't true. THEN I'D BE FUCKING TROLLING YOU.
RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
January 19, 2015 at 5:18 pm
(January 19, 2015 at 5:08 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(January 19, 2015 at 5:02 pm)Stimbo Wrote: So you got a warning for breaking the "no personal attack" rule. And?
And, as already noted, it's interesting that mods consider suggesting that someone is gay to be an attack.
(January 19, 2015 at 5:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I never use the report button. I just tell the asshole what I think of them.
If the person is breaking a rule, you are then yourself breaking a rule.
"If you are aware of a member breaking the rules, you are obligated to report them to the staff, either via the Report System or by sending one of the staff a PM."
And mods kudo'd your post...
You will note that it doesn't say "if you think" or "if you believe".
The rule is intended to apply to people who are protecting people they know to be socks of banned users (as well as other things we may not have considered).
It wasn't intended to, and never has, applied to the circumstance you're talking about.
But please, keep going on as if your opinion was informed, or even mattered - because it isn't, and doesn't.
RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
January 19, 2015 at 5:19 pm
(January 19, 2015 at 5:11 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I don't know your personal stance on homosexuality, but some christians see it as an insult and use it as such. It may not be seen as insulting or irritating after just one mention but after consistantly doing it.... well it might get frustrating. How many times did you do it?
Far fewer times than Minimalist insults Christians.
RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
January 19, 2015 at 5:20 pm
* raises hand
I'd also like to call alpha male a cunt.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
January 19, 2015 at 5:21 pm
(January 19, 2015 at 5:11 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: I don't know your personal stance on homosexuality, but some christians see it as an insult and use it as such. It may not be seen as insulting or irritating after just one mention but after consistantly doing it.... well it might get frustrating. How many times did you do it?
I only bothered to seek 5 examples when composing that PM, there were more, but I though it would illustrate the staff's point.... Then again, it hasn't
RE: Peanut Gallery Commentary on the Staff Log of Bannings and such like.
January 19, 2015 at 5:22 pm (This post was last modified: January 19, 2015 at 5:23 pm by John V.)
(January 19, 2015 at 5:17 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Telling someone over and over, targeting them constantly, is what constitutes as either of the above. It's fucking funny, that in your warning PM that you quoted yourself, we can see you doing just that. Targeting a specific member deliberately to get some kind of response. It's not so much about an individual insult. It's successive insults and the intent to provoke.
Yes, I get it, you think it's insulting to be called gay.
Quote:Now I'm going to call you a cunt.
And you're mysoginistic. A two-fer!
(January 19, 2015 at 5:21 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I only bothered to seek 5 examples when composing that PM, there were more, but I though it would illustrate the staff's point....
...that you think it's insulting to be called gay.
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