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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 12:01 pm
(January 23, 2015 at 11:34 am)Davka Wrote: (January 22, 2015 at 6:08 pm)Faith No More Wrote: You should care. It would probably be the precursor to an all-out war.
How many tanks does the Vatican have?
Wait... so you're telling me this is photoshopped?
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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 12:02 pm
(January 23, 2015 at 11:57 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Vatican City is a sovereign nation, and as Davka points out they have no useful military forces of their own. Their formal neutrality means that they have no security treaty with any other nation, either. They'd have to ask another country to undertake the war on the Vatican's behalf. Italy could perhaps be pushed into that position, because by treaty Italy is supposed to treat an attack on the Pope as an attack on the Italian king, but that's a little bit of a stretch.
I imagine us Americans would be easy to sway into another foreign adventure, unfortunately.
Right, that's about my take on it. The Vatican shitty-state could only hope to lobby real powers to avenge the loss of the Dear Leader, but that would be a tough sell and wouldn't happen unless an attack was in those real powers' interests.
As several have pointed out, the Catholic Church has its share of detractors who wouldn't mind seeing the vile old criminal enterprise's nose bloodied.
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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 12:02 pm
(January 23, 2015 at 12:01 pm)Darkstar Wrote: (January 23, 2015 at 11:34 am)Davka Wrote: How many tanks does the Vatican have?
Wait... so you're telling me this is photoshopped?
I err... well then...
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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 12:12 pm
(January 23, 2015 at 11:57 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: (January 23, 2015 at 11:31 am)JesusHChrist Wrote: So walk me through this -- say hypothetically, ISIS(L) makes good on their threat and launches an attack resulting in harm or death of the Pope.
Then what? What does the semi-homogeneous "west" do about it?
They are already a very naughty group indeed and not exactly on everyone's XMAS card list.
Vatican City is a sovereign nation, and as Davka points out they have no useful military forces of their own. Their formal neutrality means that they have no security treaty with any other nation, either. They'd have to ask another country to undertake the war on the Vatican's behalf. Italy could perhaps be pushed into that position, because by treaty Italy is supposed to treat an attack on the Pope as an attack on the Italian king, but that's a little bit of a stretch.
The current Italian government would never support a war of that kind, mostly because errr... We got no money! That, and outright war is prohibited by constitution, even though ISIS is not exactly a state. I don't exactly know what the reaction to an attack on the Pope *should* be as the treaty you mentioned was signed under Mussolini and has since been updated. (we also haven't had a king in the last 70-ish years, lol) I'm more worried about the fascists exploiting the attack to gain political ground.
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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 12:45 pm
(January 23, 2015 at 12:12 pm)Lucanus Wrote: I'm more worried about the fascists exploiting the attack to gain political ground.
Definitely the biggest risk in the scenario, and not just for Italy either. Theofascists here in America would seize such an attack as another reason to erode more of our own freedoms.
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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 1:00 pm
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Whats the pope need with a tank? He has the ultimate killing machine on his side.
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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 1:10 pm
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(January 23, 2015 at 1:00 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: If you zoom in you can almost read the bible verse stamped on the scope.
Is it the verse that says "Oh Lord, send your .50 BMG to smite my enemies, who have been Naughty in Thy Sighte!" ?
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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 1:12 pm
If his god is truly on his side, to protect him, why does he need security? Could it be that he knows full well there is no god to protect him?
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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 1:43 pm
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(January 23, 2015 at 1:10 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: (January 23, 2015 at 1:00 pm)h4ym4n Wrote: If you zoom in you can almost read the bible verse stamped on the scope.
Is it the verse that says "Oh Lord, send your .50 BMG to smite my enemies, who have been Naughty in Thy Sighte!" ?
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RE: Vatican on Alert - ISIS Threat
January 23, 2015 at 3:19 pm
(January 23, 2015 at 11:34 am)Davka Wrote: How many tanks does the Vatican have?
Vatican schmatican. The rally cry of Christian conservatives around the world would lead to a counter attack, which would in turn lead to a counter-counter-attack and so on until a it's full-on armed conflict.
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