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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 16, 2015 at 11:25 am
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(February 15, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Do you know what we call alternative medicine, that's been proven to work?
Medicine.
Preach!!
The key here is the difference between alternative medicine and complimentary medicine. If my patients want to get their chi balanced, go to a reiki master, take supplements have a colonic and shave their heads that's fine with me as long as they also take their fucking metformin.
On a related note, I am so fucking bored of sick people today! 
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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 16, 2015 at 9:09 pm
(February 15, 2015 at 2:24 pm)polar bear Wrote: I just read that a lot of things in our body are controlled or affected by the bacteria in our gut. It read that things such as depression, anxiety and schizophrenia could be reduced our cured, made me want to know more.
I have googled a lot about the good bacteria that is responsible for things like stress and depression, but I know I am missing a ton of information.
Christians aren't really into alternative medicine. I have a few friends that are traditional doctors, but I have lost touch with them because of my awful departure from their faith and I am not sure if they would scoff at me for even trying something like this
Last December, I switched to being a vegetarian. I have felt a lot better for it. I am sure there is more than just that. If anyone has any ideas our experiences I sure would like to hear them
Search the forum for our vegetarian threads mate. A ton of info and experiences are there.
Hope your health keeps improving. Best to listen to your body. 
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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 16, 2015 at 9:18 pm
I won't trust alternate "medicine" until I've seen it tested and to display tangible results.
Are there treatments that can work well alongside modern medicine? Yes.
Do I think any of them can be an alternative to modern medicine? No
The placebo effect is very powerful.
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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 16, 2015 at 9:29 pm
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(February 16, 2015 at 9:18 pm)Beccs Wrote: I won't trust alternate "medicine" until I've seen it tested and to display tangible results.
Are there treatments that can work well alongside modern medicine? Yes.
Do I think any of them can be an alternative to modern medicine? No
The placebo effect is very powerful.
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Awww Beccs!
But I love putting a few drops of concentrated oils into my bath tub! So relaxing and it smells good too! 
Still doesn't cure anything though
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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 16, 2015 at 9:32 pm
(February 16, 2015 at 9:29 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (February 16, 2015 at 9:18 pm)Beccs Wrote: I won't trust alternate "medicine" until I've seen it tested and to display tangible results.
Are there treatments that can work well alongside modern medicine? Yes.
Do I think any of them can be an alternative to modern medicine? No
The placebo effect is very powerful.
First person to mention aromatherapy gets slapped.
Awww Beccs!
But I love putting a few drops of concentrated oils into my bath tub! So relaxing and it smells good too!
Still doesn't cure anything though
I have no problem with bath oils.
I use them myself.
I just don't see the person selling them too me tell me they're going to cure all my ills.
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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 16, 2015 at 9:44 pm
I don't really care for the term alternative medicine, but if I have high blood pressure or highcholesterol reading, I won't be taking drugs for it, I will look at my life style and rectify that. Too many doctors put people on drugs for simple things that our life style has caused, I have friends who are on drugs for such things as high cholesterol, and the doctor has never asked them about their life style, so their on the drug for the rest of their life.
I have been offered drugs also for high cholesterol, and one time high blood pressure, I told the doctor no, and all I did was change my life style and the visit I was back to normal whatever that means. I feel if their are people out there that can help people to understand their bodies and how to keep it maintained for good health, and if they call themselves alterative or whatever name, it doesn't matter, as long as they can get good results which the doctor can't.
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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 16, 2015 at 9:51 pm
(February 16, 2015 at 9:44 pm)psychoslice Wrote: I don't really care for the term alternative medicine, but if I have high blood pressure or highcholesterol reading, I won't be taking drugs for it, I will look at my life style and rectify that. Too many doctors put people on drugs for simple things that our life style has caused, I have friends who are on drugs for such things as high cholesterol, and the doctor has never asked them about their life style, so their on the drug for the rest of their life.
I have been offered drugs also for high cholesterol, and one time high blood pressure, I told the doctor no, and all I did was change my life style and the visit I was back to normal whatever that means. I feel if their are people out there that can help people to understand their bodies and how to keep it maintained for good health, and if they call themselves alterative or whatever name, it doesn't matter, as long as they can get good results which the doctor can't.
A GOOD doctor will get as much background information on the patient as possible.
Lifestyle changes often can help. Sometimes medications are the best results.
How many mentally ill people have been enticed of critical medication by "alternate healers", religious authorities, etc and then lost it and harmed others.
There is far too much prescribing medicines for basic ills that shouldn't be prescribed at all. How many young kids in the US and elsewhere are on meds simply because they're being kids?
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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 16, 2015 at 10:28 pm
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I think it's crazy how people will believe in unregulated "medications" when the manufacturer is under no regulatory pressure to supply a pure product. Match that with the effect being placibic in nature to begin with and I'd bet you'll get grass clippings and garden dirt in those pricey plastic bottles with ten dollar names and twenty dollar prices.
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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 16, 2015 at 10:55 pm
(February 16, 2015 at 9:51 pm)Beccs Wrote: (February 16, 2015 at 9:44 pm)psychoslice Wrote: I don't really care for the term alternative medicine, but if I have high blood pressure or highcholesterol reading, I won't be taking drugs for it, I will look at my life style and rectify that. Too many doctors put people on drugs for simple things that our life style has caused, I have friends who are on drugs for such things as high cholesterol, and the doctor has never asked them about their life style, so their on the drug for the rest of their life.
I have been offered drugs also for high cholesterol, and one time high blood pressure, I told the doctor no, and all I did was change my life style and the visit I was back to normal whatever that means. I feel if their are people out there that can help people to understand their bodies and how to keep it maintained for good health, and if they call themselves alterative or whatever name, it doesn't matter, as long as they can get good results which the doctor can't.
A GOOD doctor will get as much background information on the patient as possible.
Lifestyle changes often can help. Sometimes medications are the best results.
How many mentally ill people have been enticed of critical medication by "alternate healers", religious authorities, etc and then lost it and harmed others.
There is far too much prescribing medicines for basic ills that shouldn't be prescribed at all. How many young kids in the US and elsewhere are on meds simply because they're being kids?
Yes I agree, doctors have their place and what we call alternative medicine has theirs also, sometimes doctors can be of help and some times alternative medicine also, each just has to know their capabilities and not try to cure something they know nothing about.
I once had bad pain in my groin and pelvic area, my doctor told me it was just wear and tear on my lower lumber area. After nearly two years the pain was still there, I had an x-ray but it found nothing. I told my doctor, do you think it could be my prostate, he said no he didn't think it was. After complaining over and over about my pain, he then sent me for a blood test which showed a high reading of my PSD cells, he did the finger jab and said the gland felt larger than it should. After more test they found that I had cancer in the gland.
If I was the type of person to question my doctor I would probably be dead now.
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RE: Non Traditional Medicine
February 17, 2015 at 1:45 pm
(February 16, 2015 at 9:51 pm)Beccs Wrote: How many mentally ill people have been enticed of critical medication by "alternate healers", religious authorities, etc and then lost it and harmed others.
Beccs, you nailed it on the head for me! I was told I need to have demons exercised out of me. That is the point I started to turn away from my faith. I do take medicine for mental health issues, but I would like to take less if I can do so.
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