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**Faith No More** · March 2, 2015 at 11:58 am

(February 15, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: Do you know what we call alternative medicine, that's been proven to work?
Medicine.

Goddammit. As soon as I saw the title of this thread that exact phrase ran through my head, but I got beaten to the punchline by an unsheltered wacko weeks ago. Smile

It's a bit simplistic of a statement because it ignores the political and business side of medicine, but it hammers the point home.

Fidel_Castronaut · (This post was last modified: March 2, 2015 at 5:42 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)

(March 2, 2015 at 11:44 am)Vox Populi Wrote: I ran across a man who saw a connection between Hog's Feed and Curing Mental disorder... Mainly Bipolar 1-2. It seemed interesting and it all started by a Mormon man who had NO degree's in Mental health. At first, I was like.... huh... this man might have something here but once you dug deeper into the video it started to become more and more of a bunch of bull. They interviewed people who had professions in that area of science and most of them agreed it was weird and not proven (obviously) yet there were people who tried it and it worked. He then formulated it into a human form with a bizzilion of pills a day to treat the Bipolar condition. I now see him as a total quack after looking over it... I class it next to those "alternative therapies" to quit smoking. I am suprised that they can sell this kind of jargon in the stores.

Funny enough this particular treatment (hogs feed formulation) ended up on quack watch.

I can see a *few* alternative therapies combined with modern medicine to help but as a cure all? no not at all.

I think supplementing treatments with altermatives is always going to happen and nobody can stop it. Indeed if those supplements are harmless (homeopathy) then really nobody has a problem.

When people start asserting that said supplements have not only a demonstrable physical effect, but an effect that is more efficacious than than an actual medical treatment, that's when we see a problem. Crazy is more infectious than rational and sound of mind, especially when you're physically and emotionally vulnerable from a treatment that is demonstrably proven to work (chemotherapy for example) but can also leave you broken (I've spent more than enough time in an oncology ward. there's nothing more saddening) . Someone coming along and saying that there's an altnernative to the pain, and it's just as good if not better so long as you give me £10k, will always get people tempted.

And it's these people we need to target, expose, and humiliate.

**The Valkyrie** · March 2, 2015 at 5:59 pm

(February 19, 2015 at 4:54 am)robvalue Wrote: What does the second person get?

Aromatherapy

A kick in the nuts.

Tongue

JesusHChrist · March 3, 2015 at 12:52 am

And yet my buttocks remain slap less...

**robvalue** · March 3, 2015 at 2:03 am

This just in:

http://youtu.be/lCRTDIYG6gE

**Jacob(smooth)** · March 3, 2015 at 4:27 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0

Vox Populi · March 3, 2015 at 6:17 am

(March 2, 2015 at 5:40 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote:
(March 2, 2015 at 11:44 am)Vox Populi Wrote: I ran across a man who saw a connection between Hog's Feed and Curing Mental disorder... Mainly Bipolar 1-2. It seemed interesting and it all started by a Mormon man who had NO degree's in Mental health. At first, I was like.... huh... this man might have something here but once you dug deeper into the video it started to become more and more of a bunch of bull. They interviewed people who had professions in that area of science and most of them agreed it was weird and not proven (obviously) yet there were people who tried it and it worked. He then formulated it into a human form with a bizzilion of pills a day to treat the Bipolar condition. I now see him as a total quack after looking over it... I class it next to those "alternative therapies" to quit smoking. I am suprised that they can sell this kind of jargon in the stores.

Funny enough this particular treatment (hogs feed formulation) ended up on quack watch.

I can see a *few* alternative therapies combined with modern medicine to help but as a cure all? no not at all.

I think supplementing treatments with altermatives is always going to happen and nobody can stop it. Indeed if those supplements are harmless (homeopathy) then really nobody has a problem.

When people start asserting that said supplements have not only a demonstrable physical effect, but an effect that is more efficacious than than an actual medical treatment, that's when we see a problem. Crazy is more infectious than rational and sound of mind, especially when you're physically and emotionally vulnerable from a treatment that is demonstrably proven to work (chemotherapy for example) but can also leave you broken (I've spent more than enough time in an oncology ward. there's nothing more saddening) . Someone coming along and saying that there's an altnernative to the pain, and it's just as good if not better so long as you give me £10k, will always get people tempted.

And it's these people we need to target, expose, and humiliate.

I agree in the case of combining treatments but this guy (without doctors advice... though the package says to ask) is taking people off there meds to switch to this treatment. He did it to his son and he is fine and all hunky-dorry but imagine someone out there just thinking its a cure all. If you ever get a chance watch "Boy Interrupted" on YouTube its a 15 year old who has severe bipolar 2 and he was going off meds slowly well he hit a breaking point and killed himself. Its a sad documentary with ALOT of home video. Did you ever have someone in the oncology ward ever do that to you? I see these guys as sharks.... Looking for a get rich quick.

Fidel_Castronaut · March 3, 2015 at 7:36 am

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...are_btn_fb

Says everything we need to know.

**The Valkyrie** · March 3, 2015 at 1:51 pm

(March 3, 2015 at 12:52 am)JesusHChrist Wrote: And yet my buttocks remain slap less...

As soon as I can fly to your location I'll happily slap you.

But not on the arse.

And I think you misspelled "chap-less" anyway . . .

~~psychoslice~~ · March 11, 2015 at 10:06 pm

Non Traditional Medicine or traditional, it doesn't matter, whatever works, works.

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