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The Question No Theist Can Answer.
#11
RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
Yeah. It's not really "I'm not perfect, y'know" attitude. It's more of a "I'm imperfect and not only that but I don't even have to bother because God will forgive me anyways." attitude. With some Christians that is.
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#12
RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
(August 26, 2010 at 4:21 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: It's only murder if you kill one of God's people Tiger

Besides, they had it coming!
(August 26, 2010 at 4:23 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Yeah. It's not really "I'm not perfect, y'know" attitude. It's more of a "I'm imperfect and not only that but I don't even have to bother because God will forgive me anyways." attitude. With some Christians that is.

More of that wild and crazy guy, Martin Luther:

"Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly for he is victorious over sin, death, and the world. As long as we are here in this world we have to sin. This life is not a dwelling place of righteousness."

"No sin will separate us from the lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."

"Whenever the devil harasses you, seek the company of men or drink more, or joke and talk nonsense, or do some other merry thing. Sometimes we must drink more, sport, recreate ourselves, and even sin a little to spite the devil, so that we leave him no place for troubling our consciences with trifles. We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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#13
RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
(August 26, 2010 at 4:26 pm)Entropist Wrote:
Martin Luther Wrote:We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to.

Silly Martin Luther falling for Satan's reverse psychology.
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#14
RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
(August 26, 2010 at 3:48 pm)Entropist Wrote:
(August 26, 2010 at 2:38 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: A evangelican Christian who goes by the name of ShockofGod made a fake video where he claims to demolish the Atheist Experience even though the video is a clear fabrication (I guess he thinks lying for Jesus is okay or something).

Hey it worked for Martin Luther: "What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church … a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them."

That sounds like it could have come from the movie, "Doubt," with Phillip Seymour Hoffman. To paraphrase:

Quote:In pursuit of the truth, one often has to take a step away from God.

The head nun in the movie, Meryl Streep, lied to the priest of the church (Hoffman) to get him to resign over allegations of an inappropriate relationship with a student at the school, much to the chagrin of Sister James, played by Amy Adams. The movie never specifies whether Hoffman's character was innocent or guilty. It only leaves hints, none of which are terribly conclusive. Thus, even the audience is left in doubt.
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We have lingered in the chambers of the sea | By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown | Till human voices wake us, and we drown. — T.S. Eliot

"... man always has to decide for himself in the darkness, that he must want beyond what he knows. ..." — Simone de Beauvoir

"As if that blind rage had washed me clean, rid me of hope; for the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world. Finding it so much like myself—so like a brother, really—I felt that I had been happy and that I was happy again." — Albert Camus, "The Stranger"
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RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
(August 26, 2010 at 4:53 pm)everythingafter Wrote: That sounds like it could have come from the movie, "Doubt," with Phillip Seymour Hoffman.

Looking forward to seeing this-- I've got this cued up as on of the next films to watch...
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
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#16
RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
I was planning to watch that as well.
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#17
RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
(August 26, 2010 at 4:22 pm)Entropist Wrote:
(August 26, 2010 at 4:04 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: And yet I'm sure there are plenty of Christians (if not the majority) who will tell at least a white life every now and then. Not to hurt people's feelings, etc.

As the Christian cliche goes, "Christians aren't perfect, only forgiven." There's a stock answer for everything.

Such a convenient doctrine, no? Their invisible sky-daddy tells them everything they do is okay and that clears their conscience so they can go fuck over any one else that gets in their path.

This is why I hate xtians.
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#18
RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
(August 26, 2010 at 4:59 pm)Entropist Wrote:
(August 26, 2010 at 4:53 pm)everythingafter Wrote: That sounds like it could have come from the movie, "Doubt," with Phillip Seymour Hoffman.

Looking forward to seeing this-- I've got this cued up as on of the next films to watch...

It's quite good but a total mind-bender. I saw the trailers when it was in theaters but sort of forgot about it. Caught it on Netflix recently.
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We have lingered in the chambers of the sea | By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown | Till human voices wake us, and we drown. — T.S. Eliot

"... man always has to decide for himself in the darkness, that he must want beyond what he knows. ..." — Simone de Beauvoir

"As if that blind rage had washed me clean, rid me of hope; for the first time, in that night alive with signs and stars, I opened myself to the gentle indifference of the world. Finding it so much like myself—so like a brother, really—I felt that I had been happy and that I was happy again." — Albert Camus, "The Stranger"
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#19
RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
(August 26, 2010 at 5:04 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(August 26, 2010 at 4:22 pm)Entropist Wrote:
(August 26, 2010 at 4:04 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: And yet I'm sure there are plenty of Christians (if not the majority) who will tell at least a white life every now and then. Not to hurt people's feelings, etc.

As the Christian cliche goes, "Christians aren't perfect, only forgiven." There's a stock answer for everything.

Such a convenient doctrine, no? Their invisible sky-daddy tells them everything they do is okay and that clears their conscience so they can go fuck over any one else that gets in their path.

This is why I hate xtians.

People are going to do what they want to do. The main reason to hate them is because they are a legitimate threat. It will come to fighting at some point in the future.

Atheists just don't seem to realize it, but ostensibly a lot of laws in the world are an attack on their liberties, yet they accept it laying down.
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#20
RE: The Question No Theist Can Answer.
Magic sky-daddy, slave master, or magic sandwich....who cares....

Kawasaki Ninja two fiddies are AWSOME!!

Bout the only real thing in that clip. He rides very well. Clap

Ah well back to the books Sad
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