Apparently Eastern Orthodox do not believe in vicarious redemption. I believe they consider vicarious redemption to be a Catholic idea that was inherited by the Protestants. I have no idea what the Orthodox actually do believe about the crucifixion though. Maybe somebody else here knows, or maybe I'm wrong about their view of vicarious redemption.
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New Testament arguments
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 (March 22, 2015 at 9:30 am)Huggy74 Wrote: its quite simple, they forced people to sell off their gold which has real value in exchange for fiat currency. This shows you have no idea what you're talking about. If a law was enacted tomorrow making gold our currency guess what happens? That's right, gold would then be our fiat currency. I'm willing to bet you get your economic information from the doom and gloom global catastrophe prognosticating gold peddlers on the radio sandwiched between the buckets of food storage and fallout bunker concrete salesman. Anybody using 'fiat money' as a pejorative are either ignorant like yourself or are intentionally scaring gullible preppers into buying their gold. What is your plan to manage the deflationary crash that would occur if we adopted a gold standard tomorrow? If you don't know what I'm talking about then you are woefully unprepared to have this conversation. I couldn't help but notice you didn't wan't to take me up on my offer to buy your near worthless dollars. 
I had high hopes for the Bitcoin, because it was more anarchical.
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March 23, 2015 at 1:47 pm
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(March 23, 2015 at 10:23 am)Cato Wrote: This shows you have no idea what you're talking about. If a law was enacted tomorrow making gold our currency guess what happens? That's right, gold would then be our fiat currency. I'm willing to bet you get your economic information from the doom and gloom global catastrophe prognosticating gold peddlers on the radio sandwiched between the buckets of food storage and fallout bunker concrete salesman.What? The desperation of you guys taking issue with EVERYTHING I say is ridiculous. Here's the thing, you have access to the internet and can do a little research before you say something ignorant, but no, it's like your fingers have tourettes and can't wait to type something silly, But I'M the troll for exposing you guys.  Gold cannot be "fiat currency" because it is a commodity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_money Quote:Fiat money is currency which derives its value from government regulation or law. The term derives from the Latin fiat ("let it be done", "it shall be"). It differs from commodity money and representative money. Commodity money is based on a good, often a precious metal such as gold or silver, which has uses other than as a medium of exchange, while representative money is a claim on the commodity rather than the actual good.http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fiatmoney.asp Quote:DEFINITION of 'Fiat Money'  (March 23, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The desperation of you guys taking issue with EVERYTHING I say is ridiculous. Or maybe...just maybe, in some small possibility, as farfetched as it sounds... You could just be wrong. 
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson RE: New Testament arguments
March 23, 2015 at 1:53 pm
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(March 22, 2015 at 10:57 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:heading down prejudice / racist road I see...(March 22, 2015 at 9:29 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: ...Huggy is one of those "We need to return to the gold standard!" nitwits, isn't he? (March 23, 2015 at 1:53 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:Huggy, lead is the commodity of the apocalypse - not gold - lead to line our bomb shelters and lead to shoot the mutants.(March 22, 2015 at 10:57 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote: I think he just likes his "bling-bling". It's quite common for simple people to judge things on the basis of how shiny they are. If it were up to them - all the financial transactions would be conducted using golden chains and rims for currency...heading prejudice / racist road I see...  RE: New Testament arguments
March 23, 2015 at 1:56 pm
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Huggy74
Among all ecomomic tools of exchange only barter guarantees you 'confidence' in most cases. If a global catastrophy occurs and the civilization falls no-one in their mind will change their food and ammo for your useless shiny metal. Gold matters more than paper money or bitcoins purely because it has been a currency for a far longer time and it has always been used for jewelry and liked for its shiny appearance. Otherwise it's nothing more than a relatively rare metal with good electrical conductivity. (March 23, 2015 at 1:51 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(March 23, 2015 at 1:47 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The desperation of you guys taking issue with EVERYTHING I say is ridiculous. Are you're saying i'm wrong about fiat currency? 
With folks like Huggy and the Prof around, tin foil is the commodity I'd invest in.
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