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Salvation, who gets it?
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RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 2, 2010 at 3:09 am
Quote:He gave no third option it's just the two


Yeah, G-C, you nailed it. Your god is a real scumbag.
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#22
RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 2, 2010 at 6:16 am
I have a two word answer to this question. No one.
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RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 2, 2010 at 7:38 am
(September 1, 2010 at 10:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: Sorry Ace He gave no third option it's just the two and it's your choice. Being an atheist at judgement is no different than being a unrepentant sinner.

So I'm due to go to hell for having (or lack therof) certain thoughts? Care to explain the reasoning behind that?
There is no - Have nothing to do with religion. Option?
What if I don't want either heaven or hell? I never asked to exist, but now that I do I'm some how expected to believe in certain things in order to not get what I want while avoid endless torture? Also from birth I'm already due for hell?
Your god is an idiot.
A ten year old could make more sense than him.
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RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 2, 2010 at 10:02 am
22Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:23For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;24Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus 25Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Romans 3:22-26

Basically, if you don't believe in Jesus you are fucked.
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RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 2, 2010 at 11:12 am (This post was last modified: September 2, 2010 at 11:14 am by Ace Otana.)
Quote:Basically, if you don't believe in Jesus you are fucked
It seems that even those who believe are still fucked.

"Not everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Mt.7:21
"Only those whom the Lord chooses will be saved." Acts 2:39

"Men can choose whether or not to believe." Jn.5:38-47
"Thomas did not believe and was not damned." Jn.20:27-29
"Non-believers obtain mercy." Rom.11:32.

How interesting. Big Grin
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RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 2, 2010 at 11:52 am
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RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 2, 2010 at 10:37 pm
Ace in that first scripture reference Jesus was addressing the Jews regarding their not believing in him it does not say anywhere that you can choose not to believe. In the second text Jesus chastised Thomas for his unbelief, and in the third text you quoted Jesus is referring specifically to the salvation of Israel based on a covenant that God made with them.
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#28
RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 2, 2010 at 10:39 pm
(September 2, 2010 at 3:09 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:He gave no third option it's just the two


Yeah, G-C, you nailed it. Your god is a real scumbag.

Only in your heart.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 2, 2010 at 10:52 pm
The way Christians defend God for all of is cruelty is like a German soldier under Hitler Justifying the Holocaust. There is no justifying tyranny.
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RE: Salvation, who gets it?
September 3, 2010 at 4:08 am
(September 2, 2010 at 10:37 pm)chatpilot Wrote: Ace in that first scripture reference Jesus was addressing the Jews regarding their not believing in him it does not say anywhere that you can choose not to believe. In the second text Jesus chastised Thomas for his unbelief, and in the third text you quoted Jesus is referring specifically to the salvation of Israel based on a covenant that God made with them.

Ah. Well in my defence, I've never read the bible.
Took a glance at it then burnt it soon after.
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Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

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