Salvation Army: Gay parents deserve to be put to death

[Ryantology]

http://www.examiner.com/article/salvatio...t-to-death

My favorite part is when the fucktard admits that the Christian idea of 'love' is really just killing everybody whom Scripture says God wants dead. Ladies and gentlemen, Christian charity.

[fr0d0]

See the official reply here. (PDF statement linked from this page): http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_...rset=utf-8

12 THE SALVATION ARMY RESPONSE TO QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT INTERVIEW ON JOY FM, MELBOURNE

Question: Do Salvation Army full members believe, as per the Salvationist Handbook of Doctrine, that practising homosexuals should be put to death? Why, or why not?

Salvation Army members do not believe, and would never endorse, a view that homosexual activity should result in any form of physical punishment.

The Salvationist Handbook of Doctrine does not state that practising homosexuals should be put to death and, in fact, urges all Salvationists to act with acceptance, love and respect to all people.

The Salvation Army teaches that every person is of infinite value, and each life a gift from God to be cherished, nurtured and preserved.

Question: Why include in your handbook the Romans text from The Bible, which indicates that God insists that homosexuals deserve to die?

This is a misunderstanding of the text referred to. The Scripture in question, viewed in its broader context, is not referring to physical death, nor is it specifically targeted at homosexual behaviour. The author is arguing that no human being is without sin, all sin leads to spiritual death (separation from God), and all people therefore need a Saviour.

Question: Isn't this inherently anti-Christian, to believe people should be put to death?

The Salvation Army acknowledges that the response in the interview has led to a serious misunderstanding of our teaching and that clarification should have been given during the interview.

The Salvation Army believes in the sanctity of all human life and believes it would be inconsistent with Christian teaching to call for anyone to be put to death. We consider every person to be of infinite value, and each life a gift from God to be cherished, nurtured and preserved.

Question: Do you feel you owe an apology or explanation to all those gay and Lesbian volunteers and people your organisation supports?

The Salvation Army sincerely apologises to all members of the GLBT community and to all our clients, employees, volunteers and those who are part of our faith communities for the offence caused by this miscommunication.

Conclusion

The Salvation Army encompasses a diverse community with a wide range of opinions on human sexuality and other subjects.

The leadership of The Salvation Army continues to reflect on Christian and Biblical tradition, and especially on the themes of justice and mercy, to further deepen the understandings of our own members and build a more healthy relationship with the GLBT community.

We pledge to continue to offer services to all Australians and to treat each person with dignity, respect and non-discrimination.

Major Bruce Harmer (Communications and Public Relations Secretary Australia Eastern Territory

[Minimalist]

I'm sure as soon as he got off camera he said "I'm gonna go kill me a queer for jesus, Frods."

Remember what H. L. Mencken said.

The New Deal began, like the Salvation Army, by promising to save humanity. It ended, again like the Salvation Army, by running flop-houses and disturbing the peace.

However, in reading the story I noted this in the side panel.

http://www.examiner.com/article/texas-ju...right-next

A Bexar County jury in Texas on Wednesday acquitted Ezekiel Gilbert of murder in the shooting death of 23-year-old Lenora Ivie Frago, an escort whom he found on Craigslist. Gilbert had admitted to the shooting of Frago.

The Texas jury acquitted Gilbert of the murder charge because he was attempting to retrieve the $150 he'd paid to Frago, who wouldn't have sex with him. In Texas those actions are justified by a Texas law which allows for the recovery of property by “law abiding citizens” if the crime takes place at night.

Prosecutors Matt Lovell and Jessica Schulze argued that the law was not intended for someone trying to force another person into an illegal act such as prostitution

[Ryantology]

The official stance of the organization is opposite of what its spokesperson says it is?

"Spiritual death", pfft. Let's disregard the fact that Romans 1:32 (Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death) is directly referencing God's righteous decree in Leviticus 20:13 (They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.). It is obvious that the Bible is very super extra definitely calling for violent, physical death and very super extra definitely not 'spiritual death', but let's assume that this clumsy and obviously modern reinterpretation is actually what the Bible means. How many Christians do you think make that distinction (or even care to)? At best, the official statement is disingenuous. The media relations gentleman suggests that it is a lie.

[Minimalist]

There seem to be a lot of dick crimes in the OT.

Uptight motherfuckers I guess.

[KichigaiNeko]

I don't give to "the Salvos" anymore. Haven't for a long time

[Foxaèr]

Christians: hiding behind psychopathy in the name of God.

[fr0d0]

You're being as twisted as the media whore there Ryan. I'm sure you're not always so generous to media scum. Yes that's the only interpretation. Sensationalise it all you will.

The SA is a religious movement primarily, so if you have religious objections then yes, you could justifiably want your charity to go elsewhere. I know a lot about them obviously. I'm no longer on the books, I fought hard to be removed when I became an atheist. I specifically hate any kind if traditionalism. I do know that in their charity work the administration costs are met largely by the membership, so that public donations go directly to the cause.

[Aractus]

http://www.examiner.com/article/salvatio...t-to-death

My favorite part is when the fucktard admits that the Christian idea of 'love' is really just killing everybody whom Scripture says God wants dead. Ladies and gentlemen, Christian charity.

Pfft, you're an idiot.

[LastPoet]

You're being as twisted as the media whore there Ryan. I'm sure you're not always so generous to media scum. Yes that's the only interpretation. Sensationalise it all you will.

The SA is a religious movement primarily, so if you have religious objections then yes, you could justifiably want your charity to go elsewhere. I know a lot about them obviously. I'm no longer on the books, I fought hard to be removed when I became an atheist. I specifically hate any kind if traditionalism. I do know that in their charity work the administration costs are met largely by the membership, so that public donations go directly to the cause.

Don't worry Fr0ds, It can't beat the catholics... yet

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