Questioning Darwin - new HBO doc

[Fake Messiah]

So there's a new documentary about the sad trend of people believing in made up bullshit rather then the real thing. In the documentary they also try to explain the people to believe in evolution, they really try to make it look friendly and not Luciferish as religious people "think" natural selection is.

[Alex K]

Whatever does it mean to make a scientific theory look friendly?

[Fake Messiah]

Well if you look at the documentary you can hear them say that it's "devil inspired" which usually means unfriendly so they tried to make a friendly aproach. Like to this guy

[Alex K]

Oh I see. They simply don't think it is a scientific theory. So saying that it is already improves the situation..

[Fake Messiah]

They try to show there is no devil behind evolution. Like they say "We can't be animals!" but why? Animals can also love each-other, they can be gentle, they are parents, despite the fact that there seems to be a war going between the species of Earth. They also try to explain why people should not believe in god or at least why Darwin didn't.

[Alex K]

I'll watch it over dinner

[Saxmoof]

Thanks for posting this, i'll watch it fully later

I'll say something based on what I saw in the first few minutes though - When Christians say that evolution is incompatible with the Bible, they're completely right.. it punches a hole through the literal interpretation of it at least, if humans came about through evolution and weren't magicked up by God one Tuesday then the Garden of Eden stuff never happened, meaning there was no original sin and no need for a saviour. Unfortunately they've drawn the wrong conclusion from this incompatibility which is to say, "lalalala science lies lalalala i can't hear you!"

I'd go even further than that though and say that evolution is incompatible with the idea of there being any sort of God, or at least a caring one given how brutal a process natural selection is. Even if God caused and oversees evolution with the intended eventual outcome being his favourite and chosen species - the human, then why didn't he just start with us and not bother with the millions of years of evolution?

Darwin might not have intended his theory to be anti-religion but it definitely is

[Alex K]

Darwin might not have intended his theory to be anti-religion but it definitely is

He very probably didn't intend it as he was still very much an Anglican as a young man (after all, he once studied to become a theologian), but, after he had invented it, it did have that effect on him. There are letters in which he bemoans the conflicts he has with his dear wife (who helped him in his work) about the religious implications of the theory.

[Mudhammam]

I saw a 4 minute condensed version of the documentary and it was frightening to me that these people have children and vote. Although I did really enjoy the comment of the one girl who said she hopes Darwin finds Jesus... I don't think she realized he died in the 19th century.

[Anomalocaris]

Darwin might not have intended his theory to be anti-religion but it definitely is

He very probably didn't intend it as he was still very much an Anglican as a young man (after all, he once studied to become a theologian), but, after he had invented it, it did have that effect on him. There are letters in which he bemoans the conflicts he has with his dear wife (who helped him in his work) about the religious implications of the theory.

Any scientific theory ultimate makes up an integral part of an inescapably antireligious whole, although if viewed narrowly, some might, with the aid of only a moderate degree of intellectual dissonance, not appear quite obviously so on the surface.