Ask an Anti-Feminist!

[Saxmoof]

Yes to both, but I can't call myself a Feminist.

Many Feminists won't call themselves Feminists, it's a branding issue, if you believe men and women should have equal rights you are by definition a Feminist, there's no lack of shaving or demanding gingerbread men be renamed gingerbread people required

It's true that there's some misguided Feminist viewpoints but you could say that about any cause, just or otherwise

[Losty]

You don't have to call yourself a feminist, but it's just a word...a label. Doesn't matter what you call yourself. Only how you act and treat others is important.

[rexbeccarox]

The successful continuance of this thread hinges entirely on your definitions of "feminism" and "anti-feminism".  Look at my title next to my avatar.  I'm relentless, so you might as well get to it.

Are you trying to bait me into giving the dictionary definition of Feminism?

The advoacy of women's rights on the ground of equality of sexes

However the term is largely out-dated.

Bait you?  No.  You started a discussion without defining your terms.  I'm asking you to define your terms so that we are all standing on the same platform.  What is your definition of feminism?  What is your definition of anti-feminism?  I don't want what they're not; I'm not asking how you became and anti-feminist; I'm not asking about feminism's cult status.  I just want the simple definitions you are working from.

[SteelCurtain]

It's the lovely part about debating someone vehemently opposed to a notion. They are unilaterally unable to define said notion.

[TheMessiah]

It's the lovely part about debating someone vehemently opposed to a notion. They are unilaterally unable to define said notion.

Feminists always attempt to use the dictionary definition of Feminism, but have their own dictionary for what constitutes as racism and privilege. Funny how that works?

You can be Atheist and Anti-Feminist, it's natural, hence why Thunderf00t and Amazing Atheist have large anti-Feminist followings.

Large amounts of the Atheist community are anti-Feminist. If you're opposed to religion, then you should be opposed to Feminism.

[TheMessiah]

Are you trying to bait me into giving the dictionary definition of Feminism?

The advoacy of women's rights on the ground of equality of sexes

However the term is largely out-dated.

Bait you?  No.  You started a discussion without defining your terms.  I'm asking you to define your terms so that we are all standing on the same platform.  What is your definition of feminism?  What is your definition of anti-feminism?  I don't want what they're not; I'm not asking how you became and anti-feminist; I'm not asking about feminism's cult status.  I just want the simple definitions you are working from.

My definition of modern Feminism is essentially a man-hating cult; that's mostly what it is.

SJW's have corrupted it.

Hence me being anti-Feminist is akin to me opposing a religious cult, in this case, a man hating cult.

[TheMessiah]

Yes to both, but I can't call myself a Feminist.

Many Feminists won't call themselves Feminists, it's a branding issue, if you believe men and women should have equal rights you are by definition a Feminist, there's no lack of shaving or demanding gingerbread men be renamed gingerbread people required

It's true that there's some misguided Feminist viewpoints but you could say that about any cause, just or otherwise

Do you agree that there are many Feminists who behave like crazy religious nuts?

[Losty]

The successful continuance of this thread hinges entirely on your definitions of "feminism" and "anti-feminism".  Look at my title next to my avatar.  I'm relentless, so you might as well get to it.

Are you trying to bait me into giving the dictionary definition of Feminism?

The advoacy of women's rights on the ground of equality of sexes

However the term is largely out-dated.

A handful of extremists doesn't make the definition of the word outdated. The majority of people who consider themselves feminists still use the dictionary definition. 


That, however, does not appear to be the purpose of the question. Like Rexbeccarox is saying, we cannot have a discussion about feminism or anti-feminism with you unless we know your definitions. 

[Dystopia]

The Amazing Atheist changed your mind? Really?

On February 2012, in a thread on the MensRights subreddit about a distasteful username on a feminist board, he made a "joke" about how he wanted to violently rape one of its users. When he was informed the person in question was an actual rape victim and called out by said person for his abusive language and lack of respect for people with post-traumatic stress disorder, he complained about the very concept of trigger warnings and posted further graphic descriptions of how he would rape her again in a deliberate attempt to make her relive her trauma. Choice statements include "I will make you a rape victim if you don't fuck off." and "I think we should give the guy who raped you a medal. I hope you fucking drown in rape semen, you ugly, mean-spirited cow."[1] Supposedly this was some sort of clever satire of... something.[20] This "Amazing" guy was taken to task by PZ Myers and others for his misogyny.[21][22] [23] He did eventually apologize. [24] [25]
Since TheAmazingAtheist is sometimes perceived as some sort of spokesman for the atheist community (both by his fanbase and by religious conservatives looking for convenient examples of famous atheists being assholes), when he is responsible for gaffes like this, other atheist bloggers and writers are quick to distance themselves from him, and point out that he does not in any way represent them.[26][27]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/TheAmazingAtheist

(There's links in it)



As for your little reply - First, why are you starting on the premise that both genders are equal already? What makes you think that? Have you lived this life as a woman to socially experience what's like to be a women and experiment advantages and disadvantages? Have you read surveys? Interviewed women from different demographics?

Secondly - I can't really talk about any particular state or local city, but I can tell you that most certainly someone will say rape victims had it coming because the shirt was too short, it happens all the time. Judges telling 13 year olds that they cannot be raped because they look older. Judges saying rapists that it's not their fault. Judges allowing rapists to get away because the girl (read - Child) seduced him. This isn't happening in Indian. It's happening in the west, and it happens many times. Just last year in the city where I personally live a judge told a paedophile that he would do community service and was not going to jail because the 12 year old girl truly seduced him and was attractive. This was accepted as a normal sentence. Do you think it's a coincidence most rapists don't spend a day in jail and most victims distrust the system? Do you think rape myths like the behind the alley knifepoint rape are not widespread? Do you think our education is good enough and that we couldn't improve the odds of people not raping others by implementing better sex ed (instead of showing kids hollywood movies where women always allow men to enter the vagina and it is considered normal and a romantic goal)


PS - The definition of privilege is actually an anthropological one that is highly valued by specialists - It's prejudice + power - Because without power you can't influence anything. It's because of anti-feminist atheists that the world has proven being an atheist isn't a safeguard to being sane... It never was to begin with... But I don't get along with most atheists and most people I meet anyway, so it's not new.

[rexbeccarox]

So, you literally have no definitions. Good luck with that.