Interview with a Jovo

[KevinM1]

Okay.  Let's say a potential teacher's faith precludes them from being in school every Wednesday, forcing that school to hire a sub one day a week if they chose to hire them.  Should that teacher be hired?

It's not conventional, but so what.. Unless the teach is teaching at a different religious school then accomindations should be made if that teacher is other wise qualified.

"So what?" he asks, with other people's money.  LMFAO.

I certainly hope you're not the final say on hiring people wherever you work.

[Saxmoof]

Okay.  Let's say a potential teacher's faith precludes them from being in school every Wednesday, forcing that school to hire a sub one day a week if they chose to hire them.  Should that teacher be hired?

It's not conventional, but so what.. Unless the teach is teaching at a different religious school then accomindations should be made if that teacher is other wise qualified.

So what if a teacher's faith means they can only work Tuesdays?

[Iroscato]

If the teacher has to cover her phallic symbol than Christians should not be able to openly wear crosses. Drich answered the way he did to avoid admitting that he wants special privileges for Christians that he wouldn't extend to non Christians.

Are you insane? If a Christian teacher openly wore a cross this day and age in a public class room 'you people' would have a witch burning.

Utter, utter wankery. Really sums you up, it would seem.

[Nope]

If the teacher has to cover her phallic symbol than Christians should not be able to openly wear crosses. Drich answered the way he did to avoid admitting that he wants special privileges for Christians that he wouldn't extend to non Christians.

Are you insane? If a Christian teacher openly wore a cross this day and age in a public class room 'you people' would have a witch burning.

I can't answer for anyone else but I certainly wouldn't condemn someone from wearing their cross and I don't think that I am in the minority here. In the US, a teacher is able to wear a cross while teaching.  

So, if there is a teacher who says that practicing her religion means that she should be allowed to wear a phallic symbol around her neck would you support her right to do so?

[Nope]

It's not conventional, but so what.. Unless the teach is teaching at a different religious school then accomindations should be made if that teacher is other wise qualified.

"So what?" he asks, with other people's money.  LMFAO.

I certainly hope you're not the final say on hiring people wherever you work.

Drich, if you had a Muslim employee would you allow them to take time off of work to pray five times a day? Would you allow a Satanist to wear their religious symbols on the job?

Maybe you would make accommodations for non Christians. If so, at least you are being consistent. Would you hire a Satanist or Muslim?

[KevinM1]

Ultimately, it boils down to Drich thinking that a business should be compelled to hire someone for a job even if they don't meet the job requirements. Working certain Sundays is a requirement for the cleaning job the OP mentioned. The lady cannot meet that requirement. Therefore, the business is well within their rights to not hire her. It's also the smart business decision. Why hire someone who cannot actually do the entire job, thereby requiring another person to be hired for those Sundays, or for one of the other already overworked cleaners to fill in, resulting in more costs?

Even though religion is the culprit in this case, that's not really the issue. The issue is one of meeting job requirements, which is far different than what Drich is trying to argue. Discrimination laws come into play when someone does meet the requirements, but is turned away specifically because of their minority status. Discrimination laws would come into play if I was turned down for a web programming job, even though I'm qualified and able to perform the job to an employer's specifications. They wouldn't come into play if I was applying to be a forklift driver, because I can't physically drive one. And even then it gets tricky because some states are At-Will states, like NH.

[Salacious B. Crumb]

There’s a lot of hypocrites out there in the religious community. I know a few of them. They won’t work on Sundays, and complain about people working on Sundays. They say it’s just one way this society is declining, because it is getting away from god’s teachings. They refuse to work on Sundays, while not having a problem with picking up beer from a gas station, shopping at a supermarket, or going to a restaurant after church. I”m willing to bet many of those workers are christians, but do realize that god is not going to provide them with their basic necessities of life, so they have to work. I can applaud them for that at least, because there are people out there with families that are starving and about to lose a house, and will refuse a job, because they are required to work on Sunday. That’s religion for you..

Do priests and pastors work on Sunday? Someone goes through seminary, and gets interviewed at a church and is asked if he/she can work on Sunday. “Nah, that’s against my religion. God took off, so shall I.”

And, yes, they are working on Sundays. It’s generally not volunteer, they get paid for it. Some are very well off, in fact.

[Saxmoof]

Until there comes a time when one God above all others is proven to exist someone whose "sincere belief" dictates that they shouldn't work on Sundays (insert whatever religious practice you like here) is just someone who is of the opinion they shouldn't work Sundays

Well, we all have opinions

[Drich]

Are you insane? If a Christian teacher openly wore a cross this day and age in a public class room 'you people' would have a witch burning.

I can't answer for anyone else but I certainly wouldn't condemn someone from wearing their cross and I don't think that I am in the minority here. In the US, a teacher is able to wear a cross while teaching.  

So, if there is a teacher who says that practicing her religion means that she should be allowed to wear a phallic symbol around her neck would you support her right to do so?

http://www.asmainegoes.com/content/teach...tian-cross

I googled at least 4 other direct examples with in the first few pages, but I can seem to post them. Eitherway, while it is technically legal, to wear a cross openly is heavily frowned upon. In some cases it will get you fired.

I am not a big person who must display their religion and die on that hill. Christ seemed to think poorly of those who did that sort of thing as a way to just show off for others. To ME crosses mission statement and the like are all the type of showy stuff Christ himself would frown upon, especially if that person did not live their faith outside of those trinckets

[Minimalist]

and indeed there is no legal grounds for citing discrimination based on religious grounds in either EU/UK based on the information thus presented.

Certainly a far more civilized and intelligent way of doing things than having to placate the farcical beliefs of morons like Drippy.