Interview with a Jovo

[Drich]

[Drich]

[Longhorn]

Your continous misrepresentation of this situation is absolutely infuriating. You really are that dense.

Read the bolded part of your own post very carefully, Dripsy.

The law requires an employer or other covered entity to reasonably accommodate an employee's religious beliefs or practices, unless doing so would cause more than a minimal burden on the operations of the employer's business .

And now, read this part of the OP, paying extra special attention to the bolded sentence:

We got down to the details of the role, which included every month working a Saturday or a Sunday with a day off in the week or time in lieu. She flat out refused to work the Sunday citing her religious observance as the reason why: "I have to observe my religion which I'm very passionate about, so I cannot work Sunday's under any circumstances."

This put the cleaning manager under quite some strain as we need cleaners to fill these posts (there is actually a shortage of good cleaners in our local job market apparently), but this was causing bother as we have several other cleaners who'd love to be exempt From working Sunday's but who have also been told they must work.

Case. Dismissed.

[Drich]

[Drich]

Your continous misrepresentation of this situation is absolutely infuriating. You really are that dense.

Read the bolded part of your own post very carefully, Dripsy.

The law requires an employer or other covered entity to reasonably accommodate an employee's religious beliefs or practices, unless doing so would cause more than a minimal burden on the operations of the employer's business .

And now, read this part of the OP, paying extra special attention to the bolded sentence:

We got down to the details of the role, which included every month working a Saturday or a Sunday with a day off in the week or time in lieu. She flat out refused to work the Sunday citing her religious observance as the reason why: "I have to observe my religion which I'm very passionate about, so I cannot work Sunday's under any circumstances."

This put the cleaning manager under quite some strain as we need cleaners to fill these posts (there is actually a shortage of good cleaners in our local job market apparently), but this was causing bother as we have several other cleaners who'd love to be exempt From working Sunday's but who have also been told they must work.

Case. Dismissed.

Keep reading monkey man.. The paragraph includes examples. Those examples specifically dictate that scheduling days off to conside with religious beliefs is indeed to be considered to be a " a minimal burden on the operations of the employer's business."

In this case the government sets the standard on what is and is not to be a minimal burden, not the OP or you! This law specifically allows (in this case) the right for a cleaning lady to have a sunday off to goto Church. Why? Because again to do so according to the goverment does indeed fall into the term "minimal burden" to make such an allowance.

[downbeatplumb]

How many times do you need to hear it?

They need her to work on Sundays. It's necessary for the business. All the other religious people hired there have no trouble at all with not having their sacred day off. Hiring her would be discriminatory towards them.

Stop conflating the debate on whether employers should have the right to discriminate with this particular case, in which there is no discrimination. To the contrary, it's avoided by applying the same standard to all religious employees-no sacred day off, period.

And what the fuck does pop culture have to do with it out of all things?

Nobody is calling the OP a hero. Most people here simply agree the decision was reasonable and just towards all employees.

Again read the law sport. (The US or UK version it does not matter)

You can't make people work on their perspective holy days. That is religious discrimination by defination. You seem to be confusing the law and the exception that says unless a job is only for that holy day (in this case Sunday only,) you must make allowances for an employees deeply held religious views. If the job is not a weekend job only, and because in the UK they are not allow to force people to work more than a 45 hour work week, that means days off. Days off, inturn means scheduling. That's where the law steps in and says because you must give days off, make the day off coninside with a given person's religious beliefs. You can't make them work through their holy day, and then give them some other day off.

[KevinM1]

[Longhorn]

Keep reading monkey man.. The paragraph includes examples. Those examples specifically dictate that scheduling days off to conside with religious beliefs is indeed to be considered to be a " a minimal burden on the operations of the employer's business."

In this case the government sets the standard on what is and is not to be a minimal burden, not the OP or you! This law specifically allows (in this case) the right for a cleaning lady to have a sunday off to goto Church. Why? Because again to do so according to the goverment does indeed fall into the term "minimal burden" to make such an allowance.

Um, no.

The paragraph does mention flexible scheduling. To be exact, it states:

This means an employer may be required to make reasonable adjustments to the work environment that will allow an employee to practice his or her religion.
Examples of some common religious accommodations include flexible scheduling, voluntary shift substitutions or swaps, job reassignments, and modifications to workplace policies or practices.

The keywords being 'may' and 'reasonable'. I underlined them for you. Then it goes on to list examples of religious accommodations commonly made by employers. It does not specifically state that a cleaning lady has to have a Sunday off, that would be ridiculous.

As mentioned in the OP, it's essential that the cleaners work in the agreed working hours, otherwise it would put a strain on the manager.

And you are STILL missing two aspects of the case, namely that the job description clearly stated the working hours and that the woman applied with that knowledge in mind and also the fact that other religious employees were denied a day off for the very same reason. There is no prejudice or discrimination here, it's the exact opposite.

[Nope]

Drich, I asked how you would feel about hiring a teacher whose religious beliefs  include wearing a phallic symbol around their neck. If Christians get special privileges because of religion than all religions get those same privileges.

[Drich]