Why are we here?

[professor]

Gotta hand it to you Stimbo, you are consistantly bright.
What is an autocomplete list?

Anyway, in the end, all will have been tested.
 Lucifer and the dingbat buddies of his failed their test.
We are living in our own test, and even in the Millennium Restoration, where life will be heavenly, it's end will be in a time of testing.

Beccs, when someone has an abundance of power, an expanse of distance or time, is a minor concern.
The concern is the result.
And we ain't there yet.

[Cyberman]

Gotta hand it to you Stimbo, you are consistantly bright.

You've only just noticed?

And I'd tell you what an autocomplete list is but you'd confiscate my kudos.

[Pyrrho]

Gotta hand it to you Stimbo, you are consistantly bright.
What is an autocomplete list?

Anyway, in the end, all will have been tested.
 Lucifer and the dingbat buddies of his failed their test.
We are living in our own test, and even in the Millennium Restoration, where life will be heavenly, it's end will be in a time of testing.

Beccs, when someone has an abundance of power, an expanse of distance or time, is a minor concern.
The concern is the result.
And we ain't there yet.

Now you seem to be saying that god is an idiot, who does not know who would and who would not pass the test (as otherwise, he would have no need of testing anything).  So is that your position, or what you seemed to indicate earlier, that god is just an evil bastard?

[The Valkyrie]

Gotta hand it to you Stimbo, you are consistantly bright.
What is an autocomplete list?

Anyway, in the end, all will have been tested.
 Lucifer and the dingbat buddies of his failed their test.
We are living in our own test, and even in the Millennium Restoration, where life will be heavenly, it's end will be in a time of testing.

Beccs, when someone has an abundance of power, an expanse of distance or time, is a minor concern.
The concern is the result.
And we ain't there yet.

Yet we're supposed to apply those rules to ourselves in our own timeframe.

If time is so irrelevant to this deity, why are his followers so vocal about us "getting right with it" NOW?

[ignoramus]

Why do all religious people come across as though they are the hells angels trying to scare us into conforming?
Or else!
Why can't they just be happy knowing that they are safe.
It's like they're constantly persecuted by their own little voice of reason in their heads and they hate us for not suffering as they do.   No wonder they can't wait for the next life.
It's bound to be better.
Remember christians, you are still primates!  Or are you still struggling with that one too?

[The Valkyrie]

Why do all religious people come across as though they are the hells angels trying to scare us into conforming?
Or else!
Why can't they just be happy knowing that they are safe.
It's like they're constantly persecuted by their own little voice of reason in their heads and they hate us for not suffering as they do.   No wonder they can't wait for the next life.
It's bound to be better.
Remember christians, you are still primates!  Or are you still struggling with that one too?

Because, in the end, fear and threats are all they can resort to.  And they don't seem to know, however many times it's said to them, that their fear tactics only work on those who are already indoctrinated to it.

And many theists I've encountered, but certainly not all, seem to still be swinging in their family trees.

[ignoramus]

Please don't tell me anyone actually has Adam and Eve at the top of their family tree.

[The Valkyrie]

Please don't tell me anyone actually has Adam and Eve at the top of their family tree.

Well, it's not Adam and Steve!!

[Ravenshire]

Gotta hand it to you Stimbo, you are consistantly bright.
What is an autocomplete list?

Anyway, in the end, all will have been tested.
 Lucifer and the dingbat buddies of his failed their test.
We are living in our own test, and even in the Millennium Restoration, where life will be heavenly, it's end will be in a time of testing.

Beccs, when someone has an abundance of power, an expanse of distance or time, is a minor concern.
The concern is the result.
And we ain't there yet.

You know, your gawd is full of fail. First it created a bunch of angels to keep it company. So, these angels are hangin' with gawd and one day one of them says to the others, "Hey. This guy ain't all that. I'll be we could take him." So, 1/3 throw in their lot with Lucifer and they all rebel. So there's a war in heaven. Gawd wins and boots Luci and his fellow rebels out. So, what does gawd do next? He thinks to himself "Hmmm. That didn't go so well. Better try again. This time I'll create some critters who are really weak. But, I'll put them in paradise, I'll make them really curious, I'll supply all their needs but I won't teach them the difference between right and wrong. Yeah. Then, I'll magically imbue a tree with the knowledge of right and wrong, but tell them they can't eat it's fruit. Yeah, nothing could possibly go wrong!

Er.... Oops.

Ok, ok. So now I'm going to punish every one of those little fuckers because the first two fucked up. But, I still really want someone to spend eternity with. So, ok, here's what I'll do. I'll make up a bunch of bullshit rules with 10 really important ones, and whoever can obey all the rules gets to spend eternity with me. Yeah, this time I really got it nailed.

Er... What the fuck?!? Golden calves? False idols? Sodomy? Infidelity? Arghhhh! Kill 'em. I'll kill 'em all. Except that guy. And maybe his family, I guess. Hey, I know. I'll wipe out everything with a flood, but I'll make that guy build a boat (even though he's not a boat builder). Oh, and I'll have him put a bunch of animals on there too. What can possibly go wrong?

So, flood, check. Wiped out everything, check. Got the guy and his family to commit a shit-ton of incest to repopulate the earth. Now, what in the holy fuck are these idiots doing now?!? Golden calves? False idols? Sodomy? Infidelity? Arghhhh! Kill 'em. I'll kill 'em all. No, wait. I tried that already. Ok, so.... Hmmmmm. Ohh. I know. I'll go down there myself. But.. Maybe that's overkill. No. No, there's just nothing to be done. I gotta go myself. But, if they know it's me they'll just behave while I'm there and then get right back to it when I leave again. What to do, what to do... Hmmmmm. OH! Hey, Mary? Got a sec?

So here we are, supposedly playing for gawd's favor and a chance at forever with it. But what about gawd's track record so far? Will it give us free will in heaven? If not, why would anyone wish to continue without the one thing that they claim makes them human? If so, what's gawd gonna do when (no, not if, but when) some bozo uses his free will to fuck it up for everybody? Somebody will. It's inevitable. Human nature plus eternity plus boredom means somebody "sinning" and bringing the whole game crashing down, again.


Prof, everything your gawd has put it's hand to has been an abject failure so far. Why the fuck do you think this go-round is gonna be any different?!?

[Ravenshire]

The only purpose worth having in life is the purpose we give it.

You can give purpose to your life, I have no doubt of that. However God will give greater purpose to one's life, I know this personally.

GC

If you know it to be true, showing us the evidence for it shouldn't be difficult.

Or, is this going to be another of those "personal testimony" things that prove precisely nothing?