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What IS good, and how do we determine it?

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What IS good, and how do we determine it?
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 5:20 pm
Quote:What IS good, and how do we determine it?

I apologize, just felt the urge of posting this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo9buo9Mtos
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 5:35 pm
(June 26, 2015 at 5:01 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote:
(June 26, 2015 at 1:10 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I defended his point simply to show he neither condones rape, nor thinks God condones rape. That seemed very clear to me, but people were still accusing him of it for some reason, so I figured I'd clarify. It's not my argument, it's not what I think happened, so I have no answer for your question. Ask Randy.

Yes, it's very convenient for you that you take the whole of the old testament as allegorical. Too much misogyny and absolutely disgusting morality for any of it to be literal. Too bad the new testament isn't really any better.

The funny thing is she changed her stance from the stories being allegorical to the stories just being fiction. She ran into the problem of having to explain what exactly the stories would be an allegory for, so she just decided to dismiss them all together. Even if you think god was using an allegory it doesn't dismiss the immoral message that the stories portray.
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 6:14 pm
So....

The OT is optional, all good people go to heaven and morality isn't *that* objective?

Why do you need religion again, CL?
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 6:41 pm
(June 26, 2015 at 5:17 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(June 26, 2015 at 4:56 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Hey... you!  Yeah, you Portuguese guys: are you meaning "commend" or "command"?

Lying for jesus seems something commended, given how some of them act.

Also, I meant commandement, poca, you grammar nazi, you  Dodgy

The point is lost Becca. It's the heat around here.

I hear the weekend will bring even more heat! Hang in there, LP!

I know what you meant... hence the stone "medals" Wink
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 7:25 pm
(June 26, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: DO ATHEISTS CONDONE RAPE?

"If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion."

Atheist Sam Harris, Interview at The Sun: The Temple of Reason

Well, it's a good thing I don't blindly follow him, with that book as my holy text, eh?

Man, you draw the shittiest analogies I think I have ever read.

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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 7:47 pm
Is it bad that this morning I read the thread title as "What IS good, and how do we undermine it?"
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 8:30 pm
Ask Freud.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 8:57 pm
(June 15, 2015 at 7:03 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: The question I have for atheists is how do we know what IS good?

Ultimately all the christians will always fall back on god and the bible, so I have a few questions.

How does god know what is good?

What would god's reference be?

Does god answer to a god?

Is god good because the cosmos inherently requires it?
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 9:04 pm
(June 26, 2015 at 8:57 pm)IATIA Wrote: How does god know what is good?
Because he's God.
Quote:What would god's reference be?
Him being God.

Quote:Does god answer to a god?
No, because he's God.

Quote:Is god good because the cosmos inherently requires it?

No, he's good because he's God.
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RE: What IS good, and how do we determine it?
June 26, 2015 at 9:06 pm
(June 26, 2015 at 12:29 pm)Randy Carson Wrote: DO ATHEISTS CONDONE RAPE?

"If I could wave a magic wand and get rid of either rape or religion, I would not hesitate to get rid of religion."

Atheist Sam Harris, Interview at The Sun: The Temple of Reason

If you honestly believe that the contention of that quote is "rape is good," then you are a bigger fool than even I'd taken you for.

So I want to hear you say it. I want to hear you actually assert your position regarding this quote: just say "I believe that Sam Harris is saying that he thinks rape is good, in the quote I supplied."

It's either that, or back down from your smug little bolded opening... Angel
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