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Need bible translation
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Need bible translation
Matthew 18:18. Please put in layman"s terms. Working IQ of 100.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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Copy and paste the section along with a little before after. Is it the Old Testament or new? I may be of no help but I am interested and will try to help.
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15 “If your brother or sister[b] sins,[c] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’[d] 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

18 “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be[e] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[f] loosed in heaven.

19 “Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they ask for, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them.”
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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"Whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven....."
This is to those walking in obedience and faith to the Lord Jesus Christ- it is permission to make declarations and expect them to come to pass.
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Quote:whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

I think it is talking about diarrhea.

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(June 27, 2015 at 10:13 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Copy and paste the section along with a little before after. Is it the Old Testament or new? I may be of no help but I am interested and will try to help.

Matthew is NT.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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You can't expect a xtian to know that, Stim.
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It says that if you truly know that someone is wrong in there actions to bring it to there attention in a humble personal manner. If they refuse to change let them act out in front of others and confront them about it together. If that does not work bring it up in the church which is supposed to be unbiased and know right from wrong. If this still doesn't work you have the right to run them off or kill them. Not sure which would have to clarify the offence of tax collector. 18 is simply saying that if you are with the truly right your judgments will be upheld in the afterlife. 19 implies that the more people that believe the greater the effect will be.

Hope that helped.
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Thanks for the replies but still lost. Put it in 1984 Orwell speak. Could one of the translations be, what the church holds true on earth I will hold true in heaven?

From biblehub.com:

"Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

New Living Translation
"I tell you the truth, whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.

English Standard Version
Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

New American Standard Bible
"Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.

King James Bible
Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I assure you: Whatever you bind on earth is already bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth is already loosed in heaven.

International Standard Version
"I tell all of you with certainty, whatever you prohibit on earth will have been prohibited in heaven, and whatever you permit on earth will have been permitted in heaven.

Thanks to all that respond.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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(June 27, 2015 at 10:20 pm)professor Wrote: "Whatsoever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven....."
This is to those walking in obedience and faith to the Lord Jesus Christ- it is permission to make declarations and expect them to come to pass.

Most commentators don't read it that way. 

Quote:In Such Cases the Church Acts on God's Authority (18:18)
God authorizes the Christian judicial assembly that follows these procedures to act on the authority of heaven. The unrepentant person has already left God's way and cannot be restored without repentance. The verb tenses allow (though do not demand) the meaning the context suggests: the earthly action follows the heavenly decree (compare Mantey 1973). By removing an unrepentant sinner from the Christian community, believers merely ratify the heavenly court's decree (see Keener 1991a:141-43; in Jewish courts, compare t. Rossashana 1:18), removing branches already dead on the vine (compare Jn 15:2, 6).
[i]Bind and loose refer to the judicial authority of gathered Christians to decide cases on the basis of God's law. Most scholars thus recognize that this passage applies to church discipline (Cullmann 1953:204-5; R. Fuller 1971:141). [/i]
 https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/c...ing-Blocks

Others read it as giving the church the power to decide matters concerning faith and morality on behalf of god:

Quote:(1) Whatever you (in the church) declare to be unlawful on the one hand, or permissible on the other (see note on Matthew 16:19), will be held to be so in the sight of God; your judgment in regard to complaints brought before the church is accordingly ratified by divine warrant. (2) If two of you agree as to anything that is to be asked in prayer, it will be given you by God; when, therefore, your hearts are thus united in prayer, you are assured of the divine help and illumination, in order that, in every case, you may arrive at and, in the church, give effect to decisions in accordance with the mind of God.
Meyer's NT Commentary

The Catholic's use it to justify the passage of power from Peter to Paul and on down the line. http://www.catholic.com/quickquestions/w...atthew-181

And then there are those who think it's about casting out demons:

Quote:The more popular use of "binding" today in many circles (exercising authority over the devil) resembles instead an ancient practice in the magical papyri-also called "binding" (see note on 12:29)-of manipulating demons to carry out a magician's will. (The Bible does support Christians' authority to cast out real demons-compare comment on 17:17-but the only "devils" in this passage are fully human ones, and they are being cast out of the church!)

https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/c...ing-Blocks
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