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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 10:01 pm
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(July 17, 2015 at 9:59 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 9:51 pm)IATIA Wrote: Wrong! Just plain wrong. Wrong analogy. Wrong concept. Truth, unlike morals, is absolute and does not require opposing viewpoints to discriminate.
Still can't figure it out? Say lies don't exist and have never existed... define what truth is.
That which is in accordance with fact or reality.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 10:16 pm
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(July 17, 2015 at 10:01 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 9:59 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Still can't figure it out? Say lies don't exist and have never existed... define what truth is.
That which is in accordance with fact or reality. Fact is just another word for truth isn't it?
That definition is predicated that things exist which are "nonfactual" or "unreal". The point is truth cannot be defined without it's polar opposite of lies existing. How do you define north if south doesn't exist?
Got it?
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 10:34 pm
You are an idiot. You are so wrong and too stupid to see it. Facts and truths are absolutes. They do not exist because of opposites. Throw that fucking bible away and get a real education. Sheeeesh!
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 10:36 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 10:16 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 10:01 pm)Jenny A Wrote: That which is in accordance with fact or reality. Fact is just another word for truth isn't it?
That definition is predicated that things exist which are "nonfactual" or "unreal". The point is truth cannot be defined without it's polar opposite of lies existing. How do you define north if south doesn't exist?
Got it?
And is reality just another name for truth?
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 10:42 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 10:34 pm)IATIA Wrote: You are an idiot. You are so wrong and too stupid to see it. Facts and truths are absolutes. They do not exist because of opposites. Throw that fucking bible away and get a real education. Sheeeesh!
It's going to be amusing to see how long you guys defend this position... North is an absolute also and north exists because south exists... one can't exist with out the other. it's appalling how you guys can't understand this.
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 10:49 pm
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(July 17, 2015 at 10:36 pm)Jenny A Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 10:16 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Fact is just another word for truth isn't it?
That definition is predicated that things exist which are "nonfactual" or "unreal". The point is truth cannot be defined without it's polar opposite of lies existing. How do you define north if south doesn't exist?
Got it?
And is reality just another name for truth?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/real
Quote:Related to REAL
Synonyms
bona fide, certifiable, certified, dinkum [Australian & New Zealand], echt, genuine, honest, pukka (also pucka), authentic, right, sure-enough, true
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 10:58 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 9:39 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 9:09 pm)Cato Wrote: This muddled reasoning is why believers like yourself can't be taken seriously. Allow me to demonstrate:
How can you appreciate not having a pine cone shoved up your ass unless you experience a pine cone shoved up your ass? It's is very simple, truth cannot exist with out lies, lies help define truth. If it has ALWAYS been sunny, then how can you appreciate it for what it is? where is your frame of reference to recognize it's worth?
Is this an admission that you've shoved a pine cone up your ass?
If you've always been without a pine cone in your ass, then how can you appreciate it for what it is? Where is your frame of reference to recognize its worth?
Get it yet? I'm quite certain I'm not the one lacking critical thinking skills in this exchange.
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 11:18 pm
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(July 17, 2015 at 10:58 pm)Cato Wrote: Is this an admission that you've shoved a pine cone up your ass?
If you've always been without a pine cone in your ass, then how can you appreciate it for what it is? Where is your frame of reference to recognize its worth?
Get it yet? I'm quite certain I'm not the one lacking critical thinking skills in this exchange. Alright Muppet, I'll come down to your level of intellect
you're absolutely right I have no frame of reference for a pine cone being in my ass, as such I can neither appreciate or disappreciate the experience. That being said, the experience of having a pine cone shoved in my ass is not something I've given an ounce of thought to, but it's obvious that you've had some sort of experience.
So tell me, did you appreciate it or not?
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 11:24 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 11:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Alright Muppet, I'll come down to your level of intellect
you're absolutely right I have no frame of reference for a pine cone being in my ass, as such I can neither appreciate or disappreciate the experience. That being said, the experience of having a pine cone shoved in my ass is not something I've given an ounce of thought to, but it's obvious that you have.
So tell me, did you appreciate it or not?
Do you not realize that you've just admitted the inanity of your position?
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RE: LISTEN, CHRISTIANS!
July 17, 2015 at 11:35 pm
(July 17, 2015 at 11:24 pm)Cato Wrote: (July 17, 2015 at 11:18 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Alright Muppet, I'll come down to your level of intellect
you're absolutely right I have no frame of reference for a pine cone being in my ass, as such I can neither appreciate or disappreciate the experience. That being said, the experience of having a pine cone shoved in my ass is not something I've given an ounce of thought to, but it's obvious that you have.
So tell me, did you appreciate it or not?
Do you not realize that you've just admitted the inanity of your position? Do I seriously have to keep spoon feeding you? A pine cone in my ass in not an experience that i can appreciate or disappreciate because it's never happened. A sunny day is not something you can appreciate or disappreciate with out ever having an overcast one
You can't appreciate good without having bad.
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