(July 18, 2015 at 8:01 am)Cato Wrote:U r just being irrational problems in the past were European occupation and in the present are also the occupation so it is just the same problem called by different names in different decades .(July 18, 2015 at 6:14 am)huss88ein Wrote: I am not trying to fool any body and there are no churches in islam they're called mosques . But anyway they're haven't been a problem in the past in these countries why just after occupation of these countries these problems arised and.
Haven't u read about the other muslim countries who have no problems at all just because of there consent to the american policies.
Indeed. A 1300+ year Arabic religious succession conflict suddenly becomes the fault of a country less than 300 years old. I'll add subtraction to the list of things you don't have a firm command of.
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What's the Muslim's problem?
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  (July 18, 2015 at 8:06 am)huss88ein Wrote: U r just being irrational problems in the past were European occupation and in the present are also the occupation so it is just the same problem called by different names in different decades . European colonialism was less than 300 years ago; you're only making your problem worse. Europeans and Americans can in no way be responsible for the Sunni v. Shia bullshit that kills so many Muslims. Please don't tell me you need some Western cunt to educate you about al-Wahhab, the house of Saud, and what really happened during the fall of the Ottoman Empire. My foot's already so far up your ass I could tie my shoes through your mouth if your tonsils would stay out of the way.  (July 18, 2015 at 6:14 am)huss88ein Wrote: I am not trying to fool any body and there are no churches in islam they're called mosques . [...]lol. You don't even know what "separation of church and state means", do you? It's not about the damn buildings. lol Run along, child - come back once you've had some education. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation..._and_state
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RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 18, 2015 at 9:01 am
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(July 18, 2015 at 5:20 am)huss88ein Wrote: So u agree it is all about the money not relegion for Talban an the US government wants them to be a part of political forces in Afghanistan now?????Sorry bud, but no, I don't agree with that. Money and religion are pretty tight. I don't know why you think it has to be one or the other, and it certainly wasn't then -and isn't- today. ISIS, The Taliban, AQ, all big fans of Allah -and- money. Quote:As for the promise this idiot did mske it to the jews and started the whole issueYes, it's a mess, we can agree there.
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 RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 18, 2015 at 7:37 pm
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I find it funny when people talk about "colonialism" in the context of Islam, considering Western Asia was actually one of the LEAST heavily colonised areas of the world;
![[Image: World_1914_empires_colonies_territory.PNG]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/World_1914_empires_colonies_territory.PNG) Saudi Arabia and Iran (among the harshest Islamic regimes now) were not colonised by anyone. Most other places in West Asia that were colonised were by other Muslims (the Ottomans). North Africa was colonised by Europeans yet Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco are (relatively speaking) less totalitarian. And if you're going to argue "colonialism!" then why aren't Native Americans flying planes into buildings? I think we can all agree they are the race who have been well and truly the most FUCKED over by colonialism. Why aren't Non-Muslim Africans? Why Aren't Hindus? Why aren't the Vietnamese, who in LIVING memory just had their country bombed to bits by Western intervention? This is an almost uniquely Islamic problem. I also fail to see what forcing women to wear body-bags and hanging apostates in city squares has to do with anger at the West.
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July 18, 2015 at 10:58 pm
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Honestly, the best explanation is that of the Quran. Whenever God appoints Guides or reveals a revelation from him, the devils of humans and jinn rally against them and the revelation, and lead people astray regarding them and it, and they end up getting society to corrupt revelation, till it's forgotten. This is not unavoidable, but has been the norm. The only thing is with Islam, the words of Quran has been promised to be protected, but the way of opposition continues. Yes it was possible and meant to be followed, but it's warnings of division, not to turn on our backs, emphasis to love the family of Mohammad which was the wage of the message for our sake and for us to take a path to God, failed.
If you just remember that we have souls, you will see Muslims are afflicted with a disease of opposing the family of Mohammad and the light of the true Quran, that they are blind to many of the Quranic clear signs as well as the Sunnah, and go against reason and the light of morality, and this inspiration is really found in them in an extreme way, that manifests something dark working on their hearts. The affliction is real - the opposition to the family of Mohammad despite clear evidence regarding them, is of the clear matters. The twisting of Quran and ignoring it's clear bright signs, is obvious. There is something at work here. Something sinister on the hearts. And of the Quranic miracles, is that two ending Surahs remind of the affliction in the unseen, the blowing on the knots that lock hearts from perception, sight, and reflection. The whispering in the hearts from the devils. Through God's Name, everything becomes easy. Faith in him becomes easy, his religion manifestation is easy, his book majestic effect on the heart becomes easy, it's revelation being understood becomes easy, it's reminder and admonishment taking roots of the souls becomes easy. God's Name/face however has a long explanation, and elaboration, and is tested in the outward and in the unseen, and is tested through our experience in life. Suffice to say, his name/face is found everywhere, in everything, and love of God and for the sake of his face, is the noble intention of the righteous when they love the poor, when they love the needy, when they love humans, for they see God and his face in everything. Those who ignore the elaboration of God's face and name, and don't see God in God's chosen ones, and don't see God's chosen one's light spread in humanity, to the extent they belittle human life, kill innocents, or believe in the false oppressive authority (the Taghut) are far away and removed from the religion of God.
Take your meds.
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RE: What's the Muslim's problem?
July 19, 2015 at 4:49 am
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2015 at 4:58 am by huss88ein.)
(July 18, 2015 at 9:01 am)Rhythm Wrote:Well I'll put in simpler notions .(July 18, 2015 at 5:20 am)huss88ein Wrote: So u agree it is all about the money not relegion for Talban an the US government wants them to be a part of political forces in Afghanistan now?????Sorry bud, but no, I don't agree with that. Money and religion are pretty tight. I don't know why you think it has to be one or the other, and it certainly wasn't then -and isn't- today. ISIS, The Taliban, AQ, all big fans of Allah -and- money. In my relegion if a person is all about money then he's a bad person and it's urged that u leave these shallow things so u can deduct from that a person taking money from the enemy is even worse so how can that person be a representative for something that's condemning him that's contradiction. (July 18, 2015 at 7:37 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: I find it funny when people talk about "colonialism" in the context of Islam, considering Western Asia was actually one of the LEAST heavily colonised areas of the world;U r blind for real our countries are still having ur employees screwing things all around and the terrorists in our countries are coming from urs in large numbers so I consider them employees too and the two examples u mentioned aren't having any terrorists in their countries because they r big and powerful so it's just the weak who are paying the price. And u can't just forget the fact that the shia sunnie conflict has just arised after the occupation of Iraque that's an undeniable fact they were living together before that . As for hijab read more about it thats all I'm going to say .  (July 16, 2015 at 11:09 am)Minimalist Wrote: The problem with muslims is allah. not far from true, the god in islam is so brutal, hardcore and very unforgiving, he scares the shit out of them. ![[Image: eUdzMRc.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com%2FeUdzMRc.gif)
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July 19, 2015 at 10:55 pm
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(July 16, 2015 at 4:28 am)Atheist_BG Wrote: I saw this in another forum and decided to "move" the discussion here. For the sake of copyrights I'm posting the contents as a quote. Brutal killing of Asma Bint Marwn or massacre of Banu Qurayza will explain the problem with muslims. (July 18, 2015 at 8:01 am)Cato Wrote:(July 18, 2015 at 6:14 am)huss88ein Wrote: I am not trying to fool any body and there are no churches in islam they're called mosques . But anyway they're haven't been a problem in the past in these countries why just after occupation of these countries these problems arised and. Maybe America was behind Quran.. Hail Apostasy!
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