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Hullo! My first post.
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Quote:That IS evolution. But it is not what Darwin was talking about. He was talking about speciation. Sadly, Darwin himself was a creatard. Quote:Authors of the highest eminence seem to be fully satisfied with the view that each species has been independently created. To my mind it accords better with what we know of the laws impressed on matter by the Creator, that the production and extinction of the past and present inhabitants of the world should have been due to secondary causes, like those determining the birth and death of the individual. When I view all beings not as special creations, but as the lineal descendants of some few beings which lived long before the first bed of the Silurian system was deposited, they seem to me to become ennobled. But I forgive him. He did not know any better. The residue of a bad childhood with too much religious horseshit thrown at him. Welcome.
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RE: Hullo! My first post.
June 22, 2018 at 3:46 pm
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2018 at 3:49 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Interestingly enough, darwin described himself as an agnostic, the term atheist carried more baggage then than it does today. He'd categorically rejected christianity on moral grounds long before he admitted to himself that he could not even muster up faith in the basic foundation of it..but like many still clung to the traditions in which he was raised.
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If you write about the "creator" you are no agnostic. Deist, maybe? But a god is a god is a god. All the fuckers are the same.
RE: Hullo! My first post.
June 22, 2018 at 4:54 pm
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(June 22, 2018 at 1:16 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Welcome aboard! THANX!!! (June 22, 2018 at 2:54 pm)Shell B Wrote: Hello, and welcome to the forums. THANK YOU! (June 22, 2018 at 1:45 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Welcome aboard. roger (June 22, 2018 at 1:47 pm)robvalue Wrote: Welcome to the forum Thanks! (June 22, 2018 at 1:48 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Goddidit. Thanks! (June 22, 2018 at 1:54 pm)Losty Wrote: Welcome to AF Thank you! (June 22, 2018 at 2:03 pm)rskovride Wrote: HI , Welcome! Thanks! (June 22, 2018 at 2:43 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Welcome,Thank you. (June 22, 2018 at 2:52 pm)Joods Wrote: Welcome and thanks for the informative post! Thank YOU. (June 22, 2018 at 3:15 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:That IS evolution. Thank you. And I readily admit that there is no current confirmed model unifying abiogenesis and evolution of living species through natural selection. I'll just be very surprised if, once one is demonstrated, it will delineate any perceptible line of demarkation between abiotic chemistry driven by selective environmental pressures in a local environment and conventional Darwinian evolution. As with any single living evolved lineage, the extreme end of the process will drastically different, but any "Rubicon" from life to lifelessness will be a necessarily arbitrary distinction around which to organize future study. And I'll bet my eye teeth that theists who haven't the foggiest idea of how evolution actually works will see it as a new weakness, not an amazing advancement of the science.
Man, I really hope you stick around. It would be nice to see how you fair against some of our resident theists. Also, we have Mafia, a totally cool game that will screw with your mind 😂
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Know God, Know fear. RE: Hullo! My first post.
June 22, 2018 at 8:23 pm
(This post was last modified: June 22, 2018 at 8:26 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 22, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If you write about the "creator" you are no agnostic. Deist, maybe? But a god is a god is a god. All the fuckers are the same. His stance changed over the course of his life and we have a picture of that in autobiography. The death of his daughter seems to have been profoundly difficult for him (as we would imagine it would be) and finally soured his notion of so much as a little g god. His wife was deeply concerned with his lack of faith, and he held back from publishing in part because he feared what his work would do to her (and them). Happy ending to a sad story..though, it actually went the other way. In any dry reading, Darwin went from an anglican, to a general christian, to a deist, to an agnostic. -and lets recall for a moment the environment he was publishing in..he was very careful not to let the prevalent religious beliefs of the time find purchase in objection to his work..even though he knew that those beliefs could never coexist with it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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