Evidence for a god. Do you have any ?

[possibletarian]

Hunter Gatherers

https://www.history.com/topics/pre-histo...-gatherers

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

I'm sorry but I have to nitpick about this.

Firstly, human civilization goes back 10 or so thousand years with hunter-gartheres going back 50 or so thousand before that.

The current 'Monotheistic' phase only goes back a couple thousand.  With secularism and separation between church and state occuring for an easy quarter of even that time.

The assertion of 'My theism has done more good' is demonstrably false given just the time scales of history involved.

Sorry for the slight pedantry.  

What hunter-gatherers are you referring to?  How did you date them that far back?

I have naught but a quifk 'Wiki' perusal so if my rough glance-stemate is a little off?

So, even being generous and halving our hunter-garther past. That still gives us 35 thousand years combined cigilzations against a paltry one and a half of monotheism.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

At work.

What hunter-gatherers are you referring to?  How did you date them that far back?

I have naught but a quifk 'Wiki' perusal so if my rough glance-stemate is a little off?

So, even being generous and halving our hunter-garther past.  That still gives us 35 thousand years combined cigilzations against a paltry one and a half of monotheism.

Where did you get 35k years?  Where did you get 1.5K for monotheism?

[Peebothuhlu]

At work

I have naught but a quifk 'Wiki' perusal so if my rough glance-stemate is a little off?

So, even being generous and halving our hunter-garther past.  That still gives us 35 thousand years combined cigilzations against a paltry one and a half of monotheism.

Where did you get 35k years?  Where did you get 1.5K for monotheism?

They are rough figures M4X.

Others have the time and good nature to offer more concise links.

As for the "Where does 1.5k come from?" ?

We're in the final hours of 2018.

Given the history of 'Dane Law', 'Saxon' involment etc in my country's legal history? You're shaving a good five hundred or so years off any 'Christian' involment of deciding things.

Again, rough estimates etc though the point still stands.

[Rahn127]

At work.


I have naught but a quifk 'Wiki' perusal so if my rough glance-stemate is a little off?

So, even being generous and halving our hunter-garther past.  That still gives us 35 thousand years combined cigilzations against a paltry one and a half of monotheism.

Where did you get 35k years?  Where did you get 1.5K for monotheism?

There are instances of monotheism in 14th century BC, but modern monotheism has really only taken root for the past 1500 years or so.
Do a google search on the history of monotheism and while you're at it, look up how the bible was put together.

Here's a hint - "Your imaginary god never told people to put together a bible."

Hunting and gathering was presumably the subsistence strategy employed by human societies beginning some 1.8 million years ago, by Homo erectus, and from its appearance some 0.2 million years ago by Homo sapiens.

Starting at the transition between the Middle to Upper Paleolithic period, some 80,000 to 70,000 years ago, some hunter-gatherers bands began to specialize, concentrating on hunting a smaller selection of (often larger) game and gathering a smaller selection of food. This specialization of work also involved creating specialized tools such as fishing nets, hooks, and bone harpoons

So for some 80,000 years, human beings were making fishing nets, hooks and bone harpoons.
Pretty cool huh.

Learn something new every day

[T0 Th3 M4X]

Where did you get 35k years?  Where did you get 1.5K for monotheism?

There are instances of monotheism in 14th century BC, but modern monotheism has really only taken root for the past 1500 years or so.
Do a google search on the history of monotheism and while you're at it, look up how the bible was put together.

Here's a hint - "Your imaginary god never told people to put together a bible."

Hunting and gathering was presumably the subsistence strategy employed by human societies beginning some 1.8 million years ago, by Homo erectus, and from its appearance some 0.2 million years ago by Homo sapiens.

Starting at the transition between the Middle to Upper Paleolithic period, some 80,000 to 70,000 years ago, some hunter-gatherers bands began to specialize, concentrating on hunting a smaller selection of (often larger) game and gathering a smaller selection of food. This specialization of work also involved creating specialized tools such as fishing nets, hooks, and bone harpoons

So for some 80,000 years, human beings were making fishing nets, hooks and bone harpoons.
Pretty cool huh.

Learn something new every day

Your fantasy, not mine. Next.

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Where did you get 35k years?  Where did you get 1.5K for monotheism?

They are rough figures M4X.

Others have the time and good nature to offer more concise links.

As for the "Where does 1.5k come from?"  ?

We're in the final hours of 2018.

Given the history of 'Dane Law', 'Saxon' involment etc in my country's legal history? You're shaving a good five hundred or so years off any 'Christian' involment of deciding things.

Again, rough estimates etc though the point still stands.

Rough figures from who?  Your version of something?  As I said, I'm more interest in things that are objective.

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

Then reveiw the links provided and plug Rahn127's figures into Google to back track and fact check them, M4X.

For some one who states they are "Interested in things that are objective."

There has been a derth of such when folks have asked for such the same from yourself, M4X.

[T0 Th3 M4X]

At work.

Then reveiw the links provided and plug Rahn127's figures into Google to back track and fact check them, M4X.

For some one who states they are "Interested in things that are objective."

There has been a derth of such when folks have asked for such the same from yourself, M4X.

You were the one asked, and you keep avoiding it.   I've gotten about a dozen reasons as to why you can't be objective.

Sounds to me like you just want to run around in circles, but I can't say for sure why you are doing it.  Seems to be a trend around here.

[Peebothuhlu]

Then reveiw the links provided and plug Rahn127's figures into Google to back track and fact check them, M4X.

For some one who states they are "Interested in things that are objective."

There has been a derth of such when folks have asked for such the same from yourself, M4X.

You were the one asked, and you keep avoiding it.   I've gotten about a dozen reasons as to why you can't be objective.

Sounds to me like you just want to run around in circles, but I can't say for sure why you are doing it.  Seems to be a trend around here.

So, since you comepltely missed the more salient points of my previous posts.

1) I was at work.

2) I was at work.

3) I was other wise productivly occupied in my place of employment.

Others have also replied and added to my initial comment to Angelina so you can also peruse their information.

What exaclty is it you wish clarified M4X?

The archeological and anthropoligical dates? Look them up. I had some brief time for a Googe search to get the rough guestimates I innitially posted.

An actual archeological or anthropological page will give you better and more concise numbers than my untrained in the field self.

As for more rescent history?

The date is 2018 where you are M4X? You know how we got to said numbering sytem, right?

As for Danelaw?

It's even older than my memory served me. Being instigated in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle for the year 876.

So... a non Christian institution that still has some infulence in law books to this day.

As for myself being 'Objective' towards yourself M4X?

Please, offer me a reason or suggestion as to why I should be so forth coming towards yourself?

Not at work.

[Angelina]

Isn't everything that exists really evidence for God? Do you think the necessary chemicals and other building blocks of the universe could have just materialized out of thin air on their own? If so, how do you justify this belief?

A pot of gold is not evidence that leprechauns exist.

No, but the pot of gold had to come from somewhere. It did not and literally could not have, just created itself.

Flowers are not evidence that fairies exist.

Flowers that came to exist how exactly? How do beautiful flowers exist on our planet?

Everything that exists is evidence of existence.

That really doesn't mean anything and just sounds like a cop out.

The energy of the universe didn't pop out of thin air.
When we observe the universe, we take measurements.
We have observed and noted some very consistent physical laws concerning matter and it's relationship with energy.

Measuring something does not explain how or why it exists

We have discovered forces that act upon matter and energy. We have the Gravitational Force, Weak Nuclear Force, Electromagnetic Force, Strong Nuclear Force.

Forces that came to be how? Nothing exerts force without being alive. A universe in motion is a living universe.

A few physics classes can help you understand these better.

We have laws of motion that help to describe how bodies of matter interact with each other.

They don't describe how. They are simply observed happening.

Our universe exists and we can explain to the best of our ability how planets & stars form through gravity and how life evolves through evolution.

Gravity that occurs how? And I think you're confused. Evolution does not explain how or why anything exists on our planet. Evolution started long after the planet and all life began.

We have some very exciting experiments that give us a good idea about how organic life can emerge from non organic chemicals, but as of yet we don't have the full picture. In time we will.

Nothing that even comes close to explaining how or why we have self awareness and emotion and sensation. We can't even determine how a lifeless protein can form legitimately yet.

We justify all of our beliefs with evidence.

There is no evidence that supports atheist beliefs, so I don't agree.

Do you have any evidence that a god exists ?

Yes, the entire universe and all life. Literally everything that exists.