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The code that is DNA
RE: The code that is DNA
At work.

(December 16, 2019 at 8:18 am)Yukon_Jack Wrote: What straw man did James Tour conjure?
Or are you simply creating one yourself by claiming he did?

Not sure to whom you're replying.

In my case I'm not saying or claiming that Dr Tour is creating strawman arguments.

Only that he is wrong and I'm happy to show/link you to such information.
RE: The code that is DNA
Sungula said that Tour created a straw man so please explain.
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 16, 2019 at 11:38 pm)Yukon_Jack Wrote: Sungula said that Tour created a straw man so please explain.

Ah, well... I am afraid I can't speak.. Uhm.. post for Sungula.

Perhaps make a new post and qute the person to see if they'll be more forthcomming?

As for myself?

Yes. I have a video that systematically, succinctly and rather simply works through a 'classic' vidoe of Dr Tours and.. explains why the fellow is wrong.

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 Cheers.

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RE: The code that is DNA
Quote:Sungula said that Tour created a straw man so please explain.
I stand by my last statement
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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RE: The code that is DNA
(December 17, 2019 at 1:46 am)SUNGULA Wrote:
Quote:Sungula said that Tour created a straw man so please explain.
I stand by my last statement

I don't think Yukon_Jack wants you to stand beside it.

Rather, perhaps, you might want to expand upon it.

Though, in either case, make sure it can take your weight. Don't want your leaning or standing on things breaking stuff.

Wink

Tongue

Not at work.
RE: The code that is DNA
[Image: icon_quote.jpg]LFC:
How did god create DNA codes?

With a little help from the friends that designed Contra.
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 17, 2019 at 1:53 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:
(December 17, 2019 at 1:46 am)SUNGULA Wrote: I stand by my last statement

I don't think Yukon_Jack wants you to stand beside it.

Rather, perhaps, you might want to expand upon it.

Though, in either case, make sure it can take your weight. Don't want your leaning or standing on things breaking stuff.

Wink

Tongue

Not at work.
Lol  Great
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 16, 2019 at 6:44 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I don't know anything about odds, but the strangeness and rarity of life is certainly interesting. We can easily envision a world in which life is constantly and continually emerging naturally out of the environment, much like waves in the sea. Instead, if it ever did arise naturally it only appears to have done so once, however many billions of years ago the standard model suggests, and in only one location in the universe, and then never again.

I emphasize once mostly because evolution always attempts to trace ancestry to a single common ancestor for all life. Rarely do you hear someone suggest multiple lineages emerging from separate origins of life.

It is interesting, isn't it?  It's not so much that life only arose once, though, it's that it's only stuck the once.  Similarly, no comment on terrestrial biology is a comment on the universe as a whole.  If we were going to go that route, though, we have to acknowledge that we actually do find life in every habitable nook and cranny of the known universe so far. So it might be pretty common - even if habitable planets aren't....relatively speaking. There may be little islands of life all over the place..but the planets only form under specific circumstances around specific stars seperatef by immense distances, and then, only exist for a set amount of time before they end up getting gutted by any number of events and processes. This, all but ensuring that every given representative of life is convinced that they are utterly and completely alone.

The reason that you rarely hear the above, from biologists, is that it runs counter to facts of genetics.  We hear it all the time from creationists, though, who insist that god specially created people, and also created animals -  multiple individual lineages with separate origins.

I'll ask you a similar question to the one I asked Yukon. If it turned out that the universe was teeming with life, that it was as common as water - would this make you believe in gods less, more, or just as much as you do today?
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RE: The code that is DNA
Never mistake an answer of I don't know with ignorance, because the one who claims to already know the answer on religious grounds has no validity of knowledge.
RE: The code that is DNA
(December 17, 2019 at 9:15 am)Fierce Wrote: Never mistake an answer of I don't know with ignorance, because the one who claims to already know the answer on religious grounds has no validity of knowledge.

I think Feynman said something like "I prefer to say that I don't know, than to have answers that might be wrong."



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