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Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible?
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RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible?
(July 22, 2015 at 3:59 pm)robvalue Wrote: Well, by your own admission MK, if the Quran is being treated unjustly it's entirely Allah's fault for refusing to clear this dark force away. If he did that, we could all read it just fine, right?

It's own words, there is a trial there in, and while it's mercy to the believers, it doesn't increase the unjust except in loss.  It is by design meant to be that way.  It seems God didn't want it to make it too easy.

I remember while I was a Deist, I made the argument that perhaps God wants us to reflect for ourselves, and strive to perfect our inward Messenger as opposed to just sending Messengers to be followed without thought. I realize now, that this is part of the equation. God doesn't want us blindly following but to have insight through reflection and using our minds. He wants us to think, and this is in it's words one of the purposes of the revelation, for people to reflect/think.

Aside from that, God seems to love to be veiled like a woman is veiled with her Hijaab.  He loves for people to strive to see his light and treasure. 

One of the wisdom I am beginning to understand, is that he gift wrapped, his favor of Imam Ali and the Imams from his offspring, that he takes a wakeful heart and reflecting mind to see them with certainty in Quran.

It's like a box within a box, wrap within wrap, and each layer, you see more of their position and exalted station, with reflection.

However, they are hidden in plain sight so to speak. That despite reason proving them beyond doubt and the wakeful heart perceiving their position in there, majority of Muslims deny their position in Quran.

It's mind boggling to me. If it was written by a human why would a human do this? It seems it took wisdom to know exactly what would take place on the hearts of humanity, that reflective understanding hearts would see them with certainty while their enemies and deniers would mock "Where are they in Quran?". 

It's a bizarre thing to say the least, manifesting such genius subtle wisdom and knowledge on part of it's author, yet a trial in it's own words that doesn't increase the unjust but in loss while being a mercy to believers.
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Yet another bullshit morality thread - by Ravenshire - July 21, 2015 at 10:20 pm
RE: Can Atheist be objectively moral in the case of a possible follower of an infallible? - by MysticKnight - July 22, 2015 at 4:56 pm

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