Can an atheist be ethical like theists

[huss88ein]

For stater the sense of morality has been rationalized in older societies by a religious foundations and with the absence of these foundations what is forbidding people from being unethical? what is the determinant for right and wrong if not relegion ?

[Redbeard The Pink]

Morality doesn't come from religion. It comes from the evolved human tendencies toward cooperation, empathy, and the avoidance of suffering. An individual's morality comes from a combination of personal world view and social influences. Those who think it's from religion simply do not understand this process.

In short, what stops me from raping and killing is the fact that I don't want those things done to me, therefore it stands to reason that I shouldn't do them to other people. I wouldn't want to, for that matter, because inflicting that kind of suffering is reprehensible to me.

[rexbeccarox]

Holy fucking shit. Not again.

I am so effing sick of these threads.

[Homeless Nutter]

Can theists learn to spell? It's "theist" and "atheist" not "thiest" and "athiest", goddamit!

[Minimalist]

Can an athiest be ethical like thiests

I suppose we could go out and commit a few atrocities and be just like you assholes.

[SteelCurtain]

I can't be the Islamic type of ethical, that's for sure. I like women, I love teh gays, I like free speech.

Hardly compatible.

[The Valkyrie]

Most of us are ethical DESPITE our religious upbringings

As are many theists.

[huss88ein]

Morality doesn't come from religion. It comes from the evolved human tendencies toward cooperation, empathy, and the avoidance of suffering. An individual's morality comes from a combination of personal world view and social influences. Those who think it's from religion simply do not understand this process.

In short, what stops me from raping and killing is the fact that I don't want those things done to me, therefore it stands to reason that I shouldn't do them to other people. I wouldn't want to, for that matter, because inflicting that kind of suffering is reprehensible to me.

Well you can search the word ethics and read in wikipedia by example that ethics came from relegion even in ancient egypt.

As for that point if you don't like somthing being done to u .........etc
That's also a comes from relegion but let us assume it is just logic and common sense no more then that means that your understanding of ethics will evolve with the society development and according to what we see these days it is in bad direction not good one.
In human nature people never assume that somthing is bad unless it hurts someone else so robbing a bank which is a public Institute wont be that bad for example because ur not hurting anyone.

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Can an athiest be ethical like thiests

I suppose we could go out and commit a few atrocities and be just like you assholes.

You r missing the whole point if someone is doing something bad in the name of something it doesn't mean he is representing it by example many countries were invaded by the name of democracy that doesn't mean that democracy is a bad thing.

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Can theists learn to spell? It's "theist" and "atheist not "thiest"and "athiest", goddamit!
[emoji14]

Sorry I guess
Very valid point and really useful in our discussion[emoji14] [emoji14]

[Homeless Nutter]

Fine, then - I'll contribute to the "discussion".

I'll have you know that living in constant fear of punishment from an invisible tyrant is not necessary for ethics. All that is needed is being able to feel human emotions and some common sense.

[huss88ein]

Most of us are ethical DESPITE our religious upbringings

As are many theists.

Well I know that's not an accusation it is just if development of the western society is going for a society without a relegion then would that society be able to make people abide to its laws without any relegious foundations.

For example someone wont lie just because it's a bad thing but if he can escape some punishment he will and nothing bad would happen to him as there is no afterlife and so.