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Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 7:24 am
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If Jesus was born in Muhammad's time and knew about Muhammad, would he join Muhammad, or would Jesus just continue with his ministry without paying attention to Mohammed, or would Muhammad join Jesus and become one of his apostles?
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 7:27 am
If big mo was a joiner he could have joined the religions he took notes from, but he wasn’t- so he didn’t.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 7:35 am
(July 3, 2021 at 7:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: If Jesus was born in Muhammad's time and knew about Muhammad, would he join Muhammad, or would Jesus just continue with his ministry without paying attention to Mohammed, or would Muhammad join Jesus and become one of his apostles?
That is like arguing if Spock knew about Data, or Data knew about Spock.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 7:41 am
(July 3, 2021 at 7:35 am)Brian37 Wrote: (July 3, 2021 at 7:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: If Jesus was born in Muhammad's time and knew about Muhammad, would he join Muhammad, or would Jesus just continue with his ministry without paying attention to Mohammed, or would Muhammad join Jesus and become one of his apostles?
That is like arguing if Spock knew about Data, or Data knew about Spock.
No, it’s nothing like that, because Spock and Data DID know each other.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 7:46 am
(July 3, 2021 at 7:24 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: If Jesus was born in Muhammad's time and knew about Muhammad, would he join Muhammad, or would Jesus just continue with his ministry without paying attention to Mohammed, or would Muhammad join Jesus and become one of his apostles?
No, I don’t think Jesus would have become a Muslim. In fact, I think he probably would have preached against Muhammad, at least to the extent of denouncing him as a false prophet.
I think it’s even less likely that Muhammad would have thrown over his own franchise to follow a radical rabbi, for the reason Nudger states.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 7:49 am
(July 3, 2021 at 7:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 3, 2021 at 7:35 am)Brian37 Wrote: That is like arguing if Spock knew about Data, or Data knew about Spock.
No, it’s nothing like that, because Spock and Data DID know each other.
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Yea not as far as the writers history. There was no Data when Gene Rodenberry wrote the original series.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 7:56 am
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(July 3, 2021 at 7:49 am)Brian37 Wrote: (July 3, 2021 at 7:41 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No, it’s nothing like that, because Spock and Data DID know each other.
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Yea not as far as the writers history. There was no Data when Gene Rodenberry wrote the original series.
Actually, the writers are the ones responsible for them knowing each other. Spock was still alive during TNG, and the writers wrote an episode in which they met.
But even if they hadn’t physically met, it seems impossible that Data would not have known about Spock, since the later was at that time one of the most famous and widely regarded figures in the Federation.
*adjusts nerd hat*
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Edit: By the by, what’s the answer to your coin question?
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 7:59 am
(July 3, 2021 at 7:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 3, 2021 at 7:49 am)Brian37 Wrote: Yea not as far as the writers history. There was no Data when Gene Rodenberry wrote the original series.
Actually, the writers are the ones responsible for them knowing each other. Spock was still alive during TNG, and the writers wrote an episode in which they met.
But even if they hadn’t physically met, it seems impossible that Data would not have known about Spock, since the later was at that time one of the most famous and widely regarded figures in the Federation.
*adjusts nerd hat*
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Edit: By the by, what’s the answer to your coin question?
Um no, you are arguing after the fact. I am strictly talking about when the original series started. Data was the product of newer writers, not the original writers.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 8:03 am
(July 3, 2021 at 7:59 am)Brian37 Wrote: (July 3, 2021 at 7:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, the writers are the ones responsible for them knowing each other. Spock was still alive during TNG, and the writers wrote an episode in which they met.
But even if they hadn’t physically met, it seems impossible that Data would not have known about Spock, since the later was at that time one of the most famous and widely regarded figures in the Federation.
*adjusts nerd hat*
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Edit: By the by, what’s the answer to your coin question?
Um no, you are arguing after the fact. I am strictly talking about when the original series started. Data was the product of newer writers, not the original writers.
You didn't mention that earlier, but OK.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 3, 2021 at 8:03 am
They would be forced to fight highlander style.
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