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Artificial Intelligence
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RE: Artificial Intelligence
(July 23, 2015 at 2:13 am)I_am_not_mafia Wrote: Both the biological life and mechanical alien life in your thought experiment are strong AI because they are both wholly self organising.

Nothing has to deliberately plug values into their brains or meddle with the internals from outside. A rat that is having its pleasure centres stimulated by a scientist in a lab is no longer a completely self organising system but the two of them together are. And they together are a small part of a larger self organising system.

Here again I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding my question or I'm misunderstanding your response.  Would grass, for example - to you, qualify as strong ai? In your example of the rat, I'm not sure why you would rescind your designation of intelligence in the event that some outside agent was stimulating it's pleasure centers.  Outside agents stimulate my pleasure centers all the time, and yet I remain an example of intelligence, strong intelligence even -while- that's occurring (though my wife may beg to differ).  What would that have to do with the dividing lines between non-intelligence, intelligence, and strong intelligence?  

I was, more simply, asking you for some off the cuff examples of which extant systems here, on earth, you feel fall on each side of that line.  As in (as an example) People on down to rats are strong intelligence, rats down to mollusks are intelligence, and beneath that the rest is non-intelligent.  This example doesn't describe my thoughts on the matter, it's not representative -at all-, merely giving you a better idea of what I was asking.
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Artificial Intelligence - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 2:55 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 13, 2015 at 3:03 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 3:06 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 13, 2015 at 3:17 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 3:27 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by rado84 - July 13, 2015 at 3:30 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 3:36 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by rado84 - July 13, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Aoi Magi - July 13, 2015 at 3:43 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 13, 2015 at 7:47 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Aoi Magi - July 13, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by bennyboy - July 13, 2015 at 8:49 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 13, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by bennyboy - July 14, 2015 at 9:57 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Aoi Magi - July 13, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Anomalocaris - July 13, 2015 at 10:00 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 11:22 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 13, 2015 at 6:10 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Excited Penguin - July 13, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 14, 2015 at 9:26 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by JuliaL - July 14, 2015 at 10:49 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Excited Penguin - July 14, 2015 at 11:43 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by luka - July 15, 2015 at 1:08 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by bennyboy - July 15, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by BrokenQuill92 - July 15, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by BrokenQuill92 - July 15, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Minimalist - July 15, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by JuliaL - July 15, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by davidMC1982 - July 16, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 17, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 17, 2015 at 2:47 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2015 at 3:16 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 22, 2015 at 2:07 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 22, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Excited Penguin - July 22, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 22, 2015 at 3:35 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by Excited Penguin - July 22, 2015 at 3:38 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 22, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 22, 2015 at 6:31 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2015 at 8:20 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 23, 2015 at 2:33 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 22, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 23, 2015 at 2:13 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2015 at 8:58 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 23, 2015 at 9:54 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2015 at 9:41 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 23, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 23, 2015 at 9:48 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2015 at 10:28 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by davidMC1982 - July 23, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 23, 2015 at 11:19 am
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by davidMC1982 - July 23, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 23, 2015 at 1:02 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by I_am_not_mafia - July 23, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Artificial Intelligence - by The Grand Nudger - July 23, 2015 at 3:58 pm

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