RE: Tell us about the dinosaurs
October 21, 2010 at 2:58 pm
(This post was last modified: October 21, 2010 at 3:04 pm by orogenicman.)
Quote:I am sure you are also aware that Creationists believe in speciation (sometimes more so than Evolutionists) so to point to one and pretend he believes in common descent without a Creator is dishonest. Still does not change the fact that a Creationists named your beloved Dinosaurs, ironic. Humans are only a species of primate because Evolutionists stuck them in that group based on their Evolutionairy ideas. So it does not prove anything that they are there.
Some creationists believe in speciation. Others don't. As to creationists naming things, apparently you aren't aware that prior to the middle 1800s, many scientists were devout Christians, and so to find sholars of the time trying to show the truthfulness of the bible using cientific findings was a common theme of the time. But not all scientists of the day were devout, and in fact, William MacClure, the father of American geology had some very nasty things to say about religion in general, and Christians in particular. In his European journals, he frequently remarks on the absurdity of wasting energy and precious resources on religious devotion. He also remarks on how it enslaves people. He was one of the first to recognize that basalt was not a sedimentary or rock or a chemical precipitate, but was volcanic in nature. He also broke from many of the old ways of doing geology (i.e., Werner "Neptunism"), recognizing that it was constructed by someone who spent his entire life doing geology within 50 miles of where he was born, and that those methods and theories were simplistic, at best, and simple wrong when applied to almost all of the rest of the planet. And he could say this because he had travelled all over Europe and North America. He constructed the first geologic map of the Eastern U.S. His and other new ideas caught on and so over time, the creationist ideas were discarded, and today, only those who choose to ignore 200 years of scientific discovery cling to such trifling notions. The Scopes trial is over.
Humans are the only primate species extent today because all the other known species re extinct. Why yo brought that up is a mystery, unless it was in respoinse to my earlier point that humans are apes. Human ARE apes in every way that one can describe an ape.
Classification of Homo sapiens:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Subfamily: Homininae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens
Classification of chimpanzees:
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Subfamily: Homininae
Tribe: Hominini
Subtribe: Panina
Genus: Pan
Pan troglodytes (Common Chimpanzee)
Pan paniscus (Bonobo)
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If there are no further questions, class is dismissed!
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero