RE: How did little old us ever take the measure of unimaginably stupendous God?
July 28, 2015 at 3:32 pm
(July 28, 2015 at 2:27 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:Those are arguments for a Creator, for example an argument for a creator is that consciousness if solely materially created is so complicated that to get there you would need many complex steps, yet there has to be a step from non-consciousness to consciousness because of how vastly different it is between the two states (ie. it's not like white to black with shades of grey). This put's a paradox where many steps are needed at the same time one step has to happen (ie. the shift from one state to the other). Like wise, other arguments I've presented to prove a Creator. The purpose of this thread is obviously not to argue those but how do we know God's attributes.(July 28, 2015 at 11:38 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Do you recall my arguments (proofs from my point of view) regarding the nature of God when I was a Deist?
As I recall, you would argue that certain prior conditions would be necessary for what we know as the universe today to exist. Only God could provide those prior conditions. Therefore God.
Arguments for just a Creator, do not prove a god or God as in capital G. All it does prove a Creator. Spiritual knowledge also doesn't necessarily prove God. For example seeing you are a soul, all it tells you is spiritual non-material existence exists. It doesn't tell you the attributes of the Creator.
So do you remember arguments I've made for "God", and not just a Creator? And do you remember also the discussion on if God exists, why it's not logical to assume he couldn't give us knowledge of himself?
