RE: Supreme Court Same Sex Marriage Argumet
August 3, 2015 at 10:43 am
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2015 at 11:29 am by Anima.)
(July 30, 2015 at 5:42 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: [color=#cc3399]Wow, Ace. Just wow.
Everything below the line was directed at Animal...not you. Seriously though, if you think the last word gives you the win, you're a child. Whatever helps you sleep, I guess.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
It is a wasted rhetorical method that only works on those foolish enough to subscribe to sola scriptura (which I do not). After all the bible does not say you cannot eat people, skin them alive, or have sex with dead bodies... So have at it?
Not to mention you (and everyone who makes reference to this quote) are severely misinterpreting it meaning. The quote is taken in terms of the moral standing of the actor and not in regards to the morality of the action. As is commonly said in the Church, "Condemn the Sin not the Sinner". As such while I may say murder is immoral and unethical such that it should be denigrated and legislated against I may not say the murderer is a bad person. So the same may be said with any immoral action; the goal of which is to eliminate the improper conduct, not to eliminate the conductor.
Furthermore if I am to subscribe to the bible argument (which I generally do not and am only discussing because you bring it up.)
"If there is a man who lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death; they have committed incest, their bloodguiltiness is upon them. 13If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death." - Leviticus 20:12-13
So kill the gay and the incestuous but lesbians are cool?
Like I said I have put forth a logical argument in regards to biology (you may not like it, but it is logically sound). Which has not been rebutted. I further await an argument in their favor that is not a fallacy. Which I have yet to hear. So how about we keep religion out? I know many on here only have arguments geared against religion. I would expect as much on an atheist site. However, I would like to say you need to stop depending on religion to define who you are. It is wrong when the theist defines themselves by their adherence to religion and equally wrong when the atheist defines themselves by their opposition to religion. So let's leave religion out of it and stick to the argument at hand or a logical counter argument?