(August 5, 2015 at 2:30 pm)Salacious B. Crumb Wrote:(August 5, 2015 at 2:11 pm)lkingpinl Wrote: Min there is no need to rehash something that is readily available (and been mentioned innumerable times before on this forum) for everyone to peruse themselves. Skeptics and attackers of Jesus Christ's divinity still acknowledge that most historians agree he existed and died by crucifixion. Again, not making any claim to his divinity or miracles as recorded in NT, purely his existence.
Though since I will be viewed as having a presupposition bias, maybe you would prefer an atheist historians view on the subject who has done even far more research than I have.
http://armariummagnus.blogspot.com/2014/...again.html
Hearsay on top of hearsay on top of hearsay, isn't evidence of jesus's existence. As Min wrote, check your primary sources of this information, and maybe reevaluate, especially looking at the timeframe when these people lived.
Then, maybe check out some of the contradictions in the gospels, including when jesus's birth took place. Jesus was born during the reign of Herod and when Quinirius was governor of Syria (two different periods of time). If your primary sources can't even agree on his birth, how can you definitively say that he existed, especially with absolutely nothing from the period of time when he was supposedly alive?
Do more digging Salacious. all "contradictions" have points and counter-points on every side and you can google them all to death. the discussion was about jesus existing. My point is even among secular historians, there are very few dissenters to this being a fact.
http://www.comereason.org/roman-census.asp
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