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Poll: What is God?
This poll is closed.
E1 - Human beings know God through the teachings of the church (bible, etc.) He established so that we might know what He wills.
0%
0 0%
E2 - Human beings have advanced enough to dismiss god belief entirely, where 'God' is defined by teachings of the church (bible, etc.).
18.18%
6 18.18%
E3 - Human beings are not equipped to comprehend God (nor to recognize what is His message).
3.03%
1 3.03%
E4 - God is something that we can naturally intuit in the same way we intuit who we are and what we value.
3.03%
1 3.03%
R5 - God is that which created everything else, the 'uncaused cause'.
9.09%
3 9.09%
R6 - God is the final moral authority, the judge of who and what is or is not worthy.
0%
0 0%
R7 - God decides who gets eternal reward and who gets eternal damnation.
3.03%
1 3.03%
R8 - God looks out for us in our daily lives, like the angel on the shoulder who encourages you toward that which will reward you most.
6.06%
2 6.06%
R9 - God gives us succor and comforts us when life becomes too much.
3.03%
1 3.03%
A10 - God is eternal.
6.06%
2 6.06%
A11 - God is everywhere.
0%
0 0%
A12 - God is in everything, nothing is without God.
3.03%
1 3.03%
A13 - God is omni-powerful, can do anything (or at least any thing that is not logically impossible).
3.03%
1 3.03%
A14 - God is omni-knowing, He knows not just your words and deeds but even your intentions.
0%
0 0%
A15 - God is omni-loving. He really, really, really wants all to be happy and fulfilled.
0%
0 0%
A16 - God is inside us and communes with us in subtle ways.
0%
0 0%
A17 - God is a subject, not an object. He has subjective states, values and intentions much like we do ourselves.
3.03%
1 3.03%
P18 - God is a possible configuration of the mind.
12.12%
4 12.12%
P19 - God is an aspect of the subconscious.
15.15%
5 15.15%
F20 - Fuck you and your god damned polls.
12.12%
4 12.12%
Total 33 vote(s) 100%
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Q: What is trans-galactic, eternal and omni-everything? A: God, necessarily?
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RE: Q: What is trans-galactic, eternal and omni-everything? A: God, necessarily?
Thank you Poet for the help and Vic for the armadillo baby.

Since I made the results private I should say which I voted for: 4, 8 and 16-19.  I decided to take up Aristo's idea of choosing one in each category, except for the psychological options which I think are both true.

So epistemically, like Aristo, if God were understood as literally biblical I'd have chosen E2: that we now know enough to dismiss that option.  But since I think gods only make any sense at all when understood psychologically, I went with E4: that God would be something we intuit directly (the same way we intuit how our dead relative would have responded to something).

Initially I had declined to choose a role for God because they mostly strike me as silly except perhaps in some symbolic sense.  But then it occurred to me that R8 would fit well enough: that God is like a guardian angel.  It is a division of consciousness which is there whether or not we choose to call it God (and I don't) and it does seem to serve such a role by that interpretation as shown in this video.  So I chose that.
https://youtu.be/dFs9WO2B8uI

Originally I also hadn't chosen any attributes for God, but since Aristo had I thought I should look again.  Fortunately I realized that A17, that God is a subject not an object was sufficiently broad to fit.  So I chose that one too.  If you watched the video I would point out that neither that guy nor I thinks the subconscious is a 'subject' in exactly the same way that we are, but it is clearly consciousness.

I chose both P18 and P19 because I think it makes sense to think of God as a division of consciousness (P19) that operates mostly subconsciously, and, that is really a possible but not necessary configuration of the conscious mind (P18).  I do think it is advantageous to recognize that there is other consciousness operating along side your own and to be open to its contributions.  

It also behooves us to remember who works for who, evolutionarily.  The conscious mind is the new kid on the block and the creation of our consciousness as a whole.  So we as conscious minds wasting time online here (should) work for the good of the total consciousness, and the unconscious is fully capable of calling us to task or rewarding us depending on the quality of the relationship we maintain.  True humility does get rewarded, not the kind exhibited by most fundies.  But that isn't to say the conscious mind doesn't have really important work to do.  I think the relationship is like that of a CEO.  We run the place but if we run it into the ground we can be dealt with.

I probably should have voted for F20 too but that just struck me as being too much like

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RE: Q: What is trans-galactic, eternal and omni-everything? A: God, necessarily? - by Whateverist - August 9, 2015 at 3:44 pm

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