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Trans Jesus
#1
Trans Jesus
In the movie Religulous (2008) Bill Maher talks to a Christian who tells Maher, and I qoute:
Quote:They took blood samples from it [shroud of Turin], and it was female blood with a male figure. Okay, the only possible way that could happen was that the Holy Ghost impregnated Mary because it would've been female blood because it would've been the only blood flowing through her.

Now, of course, scientists didn't find any DNA on that shroud, but the conclusion to his belief seems right. Because if you believe a virginal conception, the first cell in Jesus' organism would have to be a female cell. And if this female cell miraculously were to begin to divide without the intervention of a man, so that a human being came into existence through further cellular division, then such a virginal pregnancy must inevitably issue in the birth of a female person. So at some point, before Jesus was born, an originally female fetus would have to be transformed into a masculine fetus. But then, always assuming Mary's conceiving and giving birth as a virgin, we'd have to think about—or believe in—a transsexual mutation of Jesus, in other words, a metamorphosis of Jesus from a female into a male.

And why is that? Because people who wrote the Gospels didn't yet know of the ovum. Back then they were following Aristotelian biology, which viewed the woman as an empty vessel for the masculine principle. Luke and Matthew, thought that women were nothing more than something like the soil, the flower pot, the petri dish into which the man placed the seed, out of which the child then grew.

Matthew and Luke could think that if an earthly father was excluded from the begetting of Jesus, then God alone would be the active force. They had no idea that to generate a person, two equally active partners were needed, so that even if the man was replaced by God, God would still not be the only active principle.

So since the discovery of the ovum—and with it of the woman's share in reproduction—the traditional idea of the virgin birth as an image of God's lonely creative action has become indefensible or Jesus is a trans person because any further claim that Mary gave birth virginally reduces God's role to that of a mere male substitute.

And it seems that Churches, like Catholic Church, still follow Aristotle's biology. Because if it acknowledged the existence of the ovum, then it would have only two choices: either change the Creed to read, "50 percent conceived by the Holy Spirit" or, should the Church continue to deny Mary an ovum, then she becomes not Jesus' mother but his foster mother or, to put it crudely, a rented womb.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#2
RE: Trans Jesus
I'm not sure that biology holds in the case of being impregnated by djinn.
It's bad for the rest of the world when americans are paid so little they can only afford chocolate mined by child slaves and clothes made in overseas sweatshops. - Robyn Pennacchia
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#3
RE: Trans Jesus
(April 2, 2021 at 7:12 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: In the movie Religulous (2008) Bill Maher talks to a Christian who tells Maher, and I qoute:
Quote:They took blood samples from it [shroud of Turin], and it was female blood with a male figure. Okay, the only possible way that could happen was that the Holy Ghost impregnated Mary because it would've been female blood because it would've been the only blood flowing through her.

Now, of course, scientists didn't find any DNA on that shroud, but the conclusion to his belief seems right. Because if you believe a virginal conception, the first cell in Jesus' organism would have to be a female cell. And if this female cell miraculously were to begin to divide without the intervention of a man, so that a human being came into existence through further cellular division, then such a virginal pregnancy must inevitably issue in the birth of a female person. So at some point, before Jesus was born, an originally female fetus would have to be transformed into a masculine fetus. But then, always assuming Mary's conceiving and giving birth as a virgin, we'd have to think about—or believe in—a transsexual mutation of Jesus, in other words, a metamorphosis of Jesus from a female into a male.

And why is that? Because people who wrote the Gospels didn't yet know of the ovum. Back then they were following Aristotelian biology, which viewed the woman as an empty vessel for the masculine principle. Luke and Matthew, thought that women were nothing more than something like the soil, the flower pot, the petri dish into which the man placed the seed, out of which the child then grew.

Matthew and Luke could think that if an earthly father was excluded from the begetting of Jesus, then God alone would be the active force. They had no idea that to generate a person, two equally active partners were needed, so that even if the man was replaced by God, God would still not be the only active principle.

So since the discovery of the ovum—and with it of the woman's share in reproduction—the traditional idea of the virgin birth as an image of God's lonely creative action has become indefensible or Jesus is a trans person because any further claim that Mary gave birth virginally reduces God's role to that of a mere male substitute.

And it seems that Churches, like Catholic Church, still follow Aristotle's biology. Because if it acknowledged the existence of the ovum, then it would have only two choices: either change the Creed to read, "50 percent conceived by the Holy Spirit" or, should the Church continue to deny Mary an ovum, then she becomes not Jesus' mother but his foster mother or, to put it crudely, a rented womb.

this mess wrongfully assumes a sexual reproduction. we know this is incorrect because the gospels tell us the Holy Spirit planted the seed of life in mary. The seed of life through out scripture refers to sperm. her virginity simply indicates this was done so in an a-typical fashion/no sexual intercourse. not as a result of a-sexual reproduction.
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RE: Trans Jesus
(April 5, 2021 at 1:23 pm)Drich Wrote:
(April 2, 2021 at 7:12 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: In the movie Religulous (2008) Bill Maher talks to a Christian who tells Maher, and I qoute:

Now, of course, scientists didn't find any DNA on that shroud, but the conclusion to his belief seems right. Because if you believe a virginal conception, the first cell in Jesus' organism would have to be a female cell. And if this female cell miraculously were to begin to divide without the intervention of a man, so that a human being came into existence through further cellular division, then such a virginal pregnancy must inevitably issue in the birth of a female person. So at some point, before Jesus was born, an originally female fetus would have to be transformed into a masculine fetus. But then, always assuming Mary's conceiving and giving birth as a virgin, we'd have to think about—or believe in—a transsexual mutation of Jesus, in other words, a metamorphosis of Jesus from a female into a male.

And why is that? Because people who wrote the Gospels didn't yet know of the ovum. Back then they were following Aristotelian biology, which viewed the woman as an empty vessel for the masculine principle. Luke and Matthew, thought that women were nothing more than something like the soil, the flower pot, the petri dish into which the man placed the seed, out of which the child then grew.

Matthew and Luke could think that if an earthly father was excluded from the begetting of Jesus, then God alone would be the active force. They had no idea that to generate a person, two equally active partners were needed, so that even if the man was replaced by God, God would still not be the only active principle.

So since the discovery of the ovum—and with it of the woman's share in reproduction—the traditional idea of the virgin birth as an image of God's lonely creative action has become indefensible or Jesus is a trans person because any further claim that Mary gave birth virginally reduces God's role to that of a mere male substitute.

And it seems that Churches, like Catholic Church, still follow Aristotle's biology. Because if it acknowledged the existence of the ovum, then it would have only two choices: either change the Creed to read, "50 percent conceived by the Holy Spirit" or, should the Church continue to deny Mary an ovum, then she becomes not Jesus' mother but his foster mother or, to put it crudely, a rented womb.

this mess wrongfully assumes a sexual reproduction. we know this is incorrect because the gospels tell us the Holy Spirit planted the seed of life in mary. The seed of life through out scripture refers to sperm. her virginity simply indicates this was done so in an a-typical fashion/no sexual intercourse. not as a result of a-sexual reproduction.

Show me one place where the bible refers to sperm.
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RE: Trans Jesus
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Luke 1:35
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RE: Trans Jesus
(April 5, 2021 at 1:29 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(April 5, 2021 at 1:23 pm)Drich Wrote: this mess wrongfully assumes a sexual reproduction. we know this is incorrect because the gospels tell us the Holy Spirit planted the seed of life in mary. The seed of life through out scripture refers to sperm. her virginity simply indicates this was done so in an a-typical fashion/no sexual intercourse. not as a result of a-sexual reproduction.

Show me one place where the bible refers to sperm.

did you not understand what i had just said in the bit you quoted? i see the bible refers to SEED When Speaking of Sperm!

So there will be no mention of sperm as this is a modern term that supersedes the archaic term 'seed.'

So where does the bible use seed refering to sperm?
Genesis 38:9
Verse Concepts
Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother.

here is a common english reading which identifies semen:
And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. But Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and the Lord put him to death. Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. 10 And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. 11 Then Judah said to Tamar his daughter-in-law, “Remain a widow in your father's house, till Shelah my son grows up”—for he feared that he would die, like his brothers. So Tamar went and remained in her father's house.

here is an older king james which identifies seed in place of semen:

And Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him.

And Judah said unto Onan, “Go in unto thy brother’s wife and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.”

And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest he should give seed to his brother.

10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; therefore He slew him also.
11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter-in-law, “Remain a widow at thy father’s house, until Shelah my son is grown”; for he said, “Lest perhaps he die also, as his brethren did.” And Tamar went and dwelt in her father’s house.
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RE: Trans Jesus
Hummer 0:69

Therebyith spreadith thine ookie upon all the hungry faces of babes.
Letith those who pray upon the Chubby rejoice in the holy baptismal spooge.
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#8
RE: Trans Jesus
Quote:They took blood samples from it [shroud of Turin], and it was female blood with a male figure. Okay, the only possible way that could happen was that the Holy Ghost impregnated Mary because it would've been female blood because it would've been the only blood flowing through her.

Another possibility leaps to mind: some female cut herself and happened to get blood on that medieval painting of Jesus.

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#9
RE: Trans Jesus
(April 5, 2021 at 1:23 pm)Drich Wrote: this mess wrongfully assumes a sexual reproduction. we know this is incorrect because the gospels tell us the Holy Spirit planted the seed of life in mary. The seed of life through out scripture refers to sperm. her virginity simply indicates this was done so in an a-typical fashion/no sexual intercourse. not as a result of a-sexual reproduction.
If it's wrongful to assume asexual reproduction, it's equally wrong to conclude that no sexual intercourse has occurred.  

The Ghost just fucks in a really weird way.  Coming over teenagers alone in the desert at night. Degenerate.
It's bad for the rest of the world when americans are paid so little they can only afford chocolate mined by child slaves and clothes made in overseas sweatshops. - Robyn Pennacchia
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#10
RE: Trans Jesus
(April 5, 2021 at 2:01 pm)Drich Wrote: did you not understand what i had just said in the bit you quoted? i see the bible refers to SEED When Speaking of Sperm!

So there will be no mention of sperm as this is a modern term that supersedes the archaic term 'seed.'

So where does the bible use seed refering to sperm?
Genesis 38:9
Verse Concepts
Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so when he went in to his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground in order not to give offspring to his brother.

here is a common english reading which identifies semen:
And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, and her name was Tamar. But Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and the Lord put him to death. Then Judah said to Onan, “Go in to your brother's wife and perform the duty of a brother-in-law to her, and raise up offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his. So whenever he went in to his brother's wife he would waste the semen on the ground, so as not to give offspring to his brother. 10 And what he did was wicked in the sight of the Lord, and he put him to death also. 11 Then Judah said to Tamar his daughter-in-law, “Remain a widow in your father's house, till Shelah my son grows up”—for he feared that he would die, like his brothers. So Tamar went and remained in her father's house.

here is an older king james which identifies seed in place of semen:

And Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord slew him.

And Judah said unto Onan, “Go in unto thy brother’s wife and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.”

And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother’s wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest he should give seed to his brother.

10 And the thing which he did displeased the Lord; therefore He slew him also.
11 Then said Judah to Tamar his daughter-in-law, “Remain a widow at thy father’s house, until Shelah my son is grown”; for he said, “Lest perhaps he die also, as his brethren did.” And Tamar went and dwelt in her father’s house.

Which bible verse specifically says god or the holy goat gave Mary it's seed?

Just checking. You tend to make shit up when it suits you.

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