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A higher force
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RE: A higher force
(August 10, 2015 at 9:23 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote:
(August 10, 2015 at 9:18 pm)excitedpenguin Wrote: I'm not sure why the need to linger on this point all the time, though. I see it more and more. Of course we can't rule some things out. You can't prove a negative, for one, and also we don't know everything about the cosmos for us to be able to be 100% certain about anything. That would be absurd. 

I'm not ruling God or higher powers out either. Not completely so, at least(but then, can you ever rule out non-specific things like that?). It's just that they're such ridiculous and bizarre claims that I might as well say they're false, for the sake of the argument. Many atheists seem to miss the point on this, namely that we wouldn't even be talking about such things if there weren't someone to bring them up in the first place - there's no need to be so anti-dogmatic that you come full circle and actually end up defending dogma.

What? I don't follow what your trying to say.

To be honest, that might be because I didn't get how what you said related to what I had said in the OP.
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A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 10, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: A higher force - by vorlon13 - August 10, 2015 at 8:53 pm
RE: A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 10, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: A higher force - by Mr.wizard - August 10, 2015 at 9:07 pm
RE: A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 10, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: A higher force - by Mr.wizard - August 10, 2015 at 9:23 pm
RE: A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 10, 2015 at 9:26 pm
RE: A higher force - by Mr.wizard - August 10, 2015 at 9:30 pm
RE: A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 10, 2015 at 9:40 pm
RE: A higher force - by Redbeard The Pink - August 10, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: A higher force - by BitchinHitchins - August 12, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: A higher force - by AFTT47 - August 10, 2015 at 8:59 pm
RE: A higher force - by Whateverist - August 10, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: A higher force - by vorlon13 - August 10, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: A higher force - by Whateverist - August 10, 2015 at 10:31 pm
RE: A higher force - by Minimalist - August 10, 2015 at 9:15 pm
RE: A higher force - by Redbeard The Pink - August 10, 2015 at 9:21 pm
RE: A higher force - by Jenny A - August 10, 2015 at 9:22 pm
RE: A higher force - by Pyrrho - August 10, 2015 at 9:28 pm
RE: A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 10, 2015 at 9:29 pm
RE: A higher force - by The Valkyrie - August 10, 2015 at 9:35 pm
RE: A higher force - by abaris - August 10, 2015 at 9:36 pm
RE: A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 10, 2015 at 9:44 pm
RE: A higher force - by Pyrrho - August 10, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: A higher force - by Dystopia - August 10, 2015 at 10:02 pm
RE: A higher force - by Anomalocaris - August 10, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: A higher force - by Anomalocaris - August 10, 2015 at 10:07 pm
RE: A higher force - by vixene - August 10, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: A higher force - by Pyrrho - August 10, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 11, 2015 at 10:57 am
RE: A higher force - by Jenny A - August 11, 2015 at 1:27 am
RE: A higher force - by vorlon13 - August 10, 2015 at 10:22 pm
RE: A higher force - by vixene - August 10, 2015 at 10:31 pm
RE: A higher force - by Pyrrho - August 10, 2015 at 10:43 pm
RE: A higher force - by robvalue - August 11, 2015 at 3:34 am
RE: A higher force - by Longhorn - August 11, 2015 at 3:38 am
RE: A higher force - by Redbeard The Pink - August 11, 2015 at 9:22 am
RE: A higher force - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 11, 2015 at 9:18 am
RE: A higher force - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 11, 2015 at 9:32 am
RE: A higher force - by Alex K - August 11, 2015 at 9:40 am
RE: A higher force - by vixene - August 11, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 11, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: A higher force - by Excited Penguin - August 11, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: A higher force - by downbeatplumb - August 11, 2015 at 12:27 pm
RE: A higher force - by vixene - August 11, 2015 at 6:16 pm
RE: A higher force - by Mr.wizard - August 11, 2015 at 6:58 pm
RE: A higher force - by vixene - August 11, 2015 at 7:04 pm
RE: A higher force - by Athene - August 11, 2015 at 7:10 pm
RE: A higher force - by vixene - August 11, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: A higher force - by Athene - August 11, 2015 at 7:59 pm
RE: A higher force - by vixene - August 11, 2015 at 8:11 pm
RE: A higher force - by Salacious B. Crumb - August 11, 2015 at 8:53 pm
RE: A higher force - by robvalue - August 12, 2015 at 3:54 am
RE: A higher force - by Silver - August 12, 2015 at 3:56 am
RE: A higher force - by robvalue - August 12, 2015 at 3:58 am
RE: A higher force - by Silver - August 12, 2015 at 4:01 am
RE: A higher force - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 12, 2015 at 4:36 am
RE: A higher force - by robvalue - August 12, 2015 at 4:37 am
RE: A higher force - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 12, 2015 at 5:40 am
RE: A higher force - by pocaracas - August 12, 2015 at 6:58 am
RE: A higher force - by Mudhammam - August 12, 2015 at 7:05 am
RE: A higher force - by Ben Davis - August 12, 2015 at 7:29 am
RE: A higher force - by robvalue - August 12, 2015 at 7:31 am
RE: A higher force - by Ben Davis - August 12, 2015 at 7:53 am
RE: A higher force - by robvalue - August 12, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: A higher force - by ErGingerbreadMandude - August 12, 2015 at 8:50 am
RE: A higher force - by Mudhammam - August 12, 2015 at 9:59 am

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