(October 28, 2010 at 1:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: All of the events took place in Galilee until your boy decided to trot down to Jerusalem. That is crystal clear.
Also, at no point does this ( or ANY ) of your gospels even claim to be written by "eye-witnesses." These are anonymous accounts written much later with 2 ( matthew and luke ) derived from the first ( mark ). The names were not assigned until late in the 2d century when the concept of "apostolic authority" got to be commonplace among xtians. "John" has significant differences to the other 3.
Don't worry. We'll get into all that. If you can't handle this simple one I shudder to think how you will twist yourself into knots when we get to the tougher ones.
Basically, you need to stop believing fundie bullshit and face the reality of what these texts say.
Min, where is Ehrman, still lost I bet. Why did you not answer the statements I made about Ehrman having Jesus going in the wrong direction and Ehrman's sloppy counting. If such an intelligent man can not count properly or figure out the difference between north and south then why should I take this man seriously. Do not come back with that weak Galilee stuff either, facts are facts my factually minded friend. We both know that the originals are lost forever and without them you can only speculate about the origin of the Gospels. You and Ehrman can use your hat tricks all you want but in the end it is all speculation. Min you know that the Gospels do not record all the events or time of the life of Jesus and that this sometimes makes things appear different than they really are if one does not dig into the scriptures. So why are you relying on Ehrman for all your answers. Ehrman has used deceit, by wording his writings to look like he has discovered errors in the scriptures when all he has done is misled people to satisfy his own ego.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.