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Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker
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RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker
Quote:I think the government has a legitimate interest in a heterogenous society. The more homogenous certain areas are, the more civil and racial unrest when those lines get blurred for any of a number of reasons.
This is wrong on so many levels, it is not the government's business to determine if society should be homogenous or heterogenous - In some cases, the former is better. If you're talking about racial diversity only I'm indifferent to it but keep in mind it's very hard to create more people of different races out of the blue and turn bigots into tolerant people with one or two laws that claim to follow compelling interests. It is up to people to decide who they marry and with whom they have kids with, and depending on that you may have a more racial homogenous society (if people only or almost exclusively only marry intra-racially) or an heterogenous one (if people marry inter-racially more often). It isn't the government's job to determine how diverse society should be as that's merely a natural result of Human affairs. You can find some societies more diverse than others without significant government intervention. 

Quote:For this reason, the government has a vested interest in not allowing discrimination based on any of a number of protected classes. I don't think there's a specific criteria for what makes a protected class other than that class having been either marginalized or having its rights restricted or taken away.
Ok, can I as a smoker apply for a protected class then? Or are you going to say that there's no social discrimination, hiring discrimination or any kind of prejudice against us? What about fat people?
Quote:Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think you've ever been turned away from a business, Dys. I don't think you've ever experienced what it's like to be told that you are not good enough to shop at a store, eat at a restaurant, be a patron at a public establishment. I have. To some of the less educated yokels in this state, I look like I could be a Muslim. I have been called a raghead and told to leave a restaurant, that ISIS money was no good. I see the stupid fucking confederate flags that these idiots fly off their gas guzzling bubba trucks here, and I am reminded of America's history when we tried the separate but equal gambit. It doesn't work. It is nice in theory, but we tried it. It failed spectacularly, and the effects of it are still being felt today no matter where you look in this nation that bends itself to liberty, but really couldn't give a fuck about it.
You're correct, I've never been turned away from a business because where I live people are mostly concerned in making profits and are extremely nice to clients so it's considered rude to turn away someone - This without mentioning that private businesses have regulations created by the boss/employer that must be obeyed at all times by employees. So if my employer decides that we should serve everyone, we ought to serve everyone. Why would you want to eat in that restaurant? What would you do if the law was on your side? Would you request the meal and eat knowing these people over there hate you? I can't help but noticing this is basically an appeal to emotions as you're saying that it feels terrible and no one should go trough it. I am ok with people discriminating for whatever reason, any reason literally, if Muslims wanted to discriminate against non-Muslims in their privately owned  shops, I'd be ok with it.

Steel, being ok doesn't mean I agree with it - I think it's idiotic to refuse service for reasons like religion, race and sexual orientation, and if I owned a business I'd make rules against that, but I think the market itself will take care of people who refuse service often as the lack of profit leads to bankruptcy and closing businesses.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Minimalist - August 13, 2015 at 7:07 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by vorlon13 - August 13, 2015 at 7:10 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Athene - August 13, 2015 at 8:15 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Dystopia - August 13, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Athene - August 13, 2015 at 9:42 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Mr.wizard - August 13, 2015 at 9:54 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by vorlon13 - August 13, 2015 at 10:54 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Longhorn - August 14, 2015 at 3:14 am
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Dystopia - August 13, 2015 at 10:20 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Athene - August 14, 2015 at 12:40 am
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Pyrrho - August 13, 2015 at 10:30 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Dystopia - August 14, 2015 at 8:51 am
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Longhorn - August 14, 2015 at 3:11 am
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by robvalue - August 14, 2015 at 4:01 am
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Athene - August 15, 2015 at 3:02 am
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Lek - August 26, 2015 at 4:58 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by vorlon13 - August 26, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Lek - August 26, 2015 at 6:14 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Divinity - August 26, 2015 at 5:38 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Divinity - August 26, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Colorado Appeals Court Tell Xtian Baker - by Regina - August 26, 2015 at 7:38 pm

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