RE: Tell us about the dinosaurs
October 29, 2010 at 2:43 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2010 at 6:28 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(October 29, 2010 at 2:24 pm)theophilus Wrote: How do you know what their technology was like? They lived a lot longer that we do so each individual could have acquired a lot more knowledge and done more during his life. Under those conditions their technology could have advanced rapidly and they could have been ahead of where we are now. Thomas Edison lived 84 years and obtained over 1,000 patents for his inventions. Think about how much he could have accomplished if he had lived ten times as long.
You are grasping at strews. Where is the evidence people lived longer, and forget using the bible and the pathetic Statlerian tactic of using the bible's self proclaimed authority as "evidence" of its authority. Thomas Edison had 5000 years of human technical and scientific knowledge to draw on. How many generations of studious mariners, shipwrights, carpenters, and scientists did noah have access to based on the biblical "chronology"? As to the ridiculous story of the Chinese ark that supposedly sailed, even if we buy the story at its ridiculous face value, your Noah ark would need to withstand the torrential run off resulting from rain pouring down over the entire land surface of the earth at a rate 360 inches an hour, 180 times the highest rainfall rate ever measured, to make your ridiculous 40 day flood story. So how's that comparable to anything ever seen by any ship? Your ark would be bashed to splinters like a barrel in Niagara falls before the currents to be expected.
(October 29, 2010 at 2:24 pm)theophilus Wrote:Quote:P.s where did Noah keep all of the marine species that would have undoubtedly perished with the massive influx of fresh water that the rains would have brought?Possibly the oceans didn't have as much salt so the addition of fresh water wouldn't have made enough difference to cause a problem..
Possibly? You just pull that out of your ass?
Possibly the marine species are still around because there was never a biblical flood that requires such baseless ad hoc crap to accommodates?
(October 29, 2010 at 2:24 pm)theophilus Wrote:Quote:And it's strange that all of the civilizations around at the time(2500bce) signally failed to notice the flood happen.All of those civilizations had legends of a world wide flood so it seems to me that they did notice...
So what? Overwhelming physical evidence shows 12,000 years ago, the last episold of the Pleistocene glacial advance in a 3,000,000 year old ice age climaxed and then retreated. Ice melted. Holocene started. The ocean level rose 200 feet. Shorelines moved inland by dozens to hundred of miles. Entire continuent sized land mass drowned and have remained drowned. Rich coastal plains that would have hosted much of humanity, who normally don't move more than a few miles from their camp, would have flooded from horizon to horizon.
When the continuental glaciers advanced on land the ice damed existing rivers to form ice bound lakes, some like Lake Bonniville was larger than any lake that exist in the world today When the glaciers retreated, or when the lakes filled high enough so the ice dams floated, huge lakes the size of the great lakes would burst their ice containment and flood areas the size of oregon, or the entire northsea, in days. Evidence of glacial dams, standing lakes behind them, scour channels, recessionary cataracts, water lain bolders size of buildings along the flood path, are everywhere to be seen in those regions. The glacial lake Missoula that periodically flooded Oregon in apocalyptic diluges powerful enough to empty lake Michigan in a day, did so 50 times at clockwork interval of about 50 years. Ancients witnessing, and luck enough surviving, the spectacle would see flood water hundred of feet deep from horizon to horizon, covering the whole world known to them, and drowning prominances hundreds of feet high, completely eroding down to nothing hills hundred of feet higher still, in just days.
Then 3000 years later, the land bridge between the mediterranean sea and the what was a fresh water lake in the black sea basin breached. The mediterranean water swamped the pontis lake, made it 4 times bigger and turned it into the present day sea in as little as a few month. The people living on the plains around the freshwater lake would see the lake shore advance several miles a day, not much slower than they can carry their belonings and flee. They would flee south into the fertile crescent, where they would found the first civilization, which is not the hebrews, but the Sumarian, 3000 years later.
So there were many more than just one big memorable flood. In at least one, the sea level advance at the beginning of holocene, was indeed global in scale. All of them would have been bigger in scale than the whole world as would be known to a neolothic tribe. But not a single one of those floods came from 40 days of rain. These actual floods are all so recent that while not one of them happened in the last 6000 years assigned as age of universe by fundies, many of them happen within just two or three times that number of years, and are so potentially within living memories of many cultures. So it is no wonder most of humanity had some vague notion of some monsterous flood passed down from some ancester who had directly witness one or more of those memorable floods. It is in all probability from tales passed down through literate predecessors like Sumarians and barbylonians that the self-absorbed illiterate hebrew yokels fashioned the story of Noah another 2000 years later. It's not from the rediculous biblical flood. Get over it.