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Nonsense. Our brains evolved by natural means, and they are complex. for the prose of this argument I accept that something triggered the beginning of the universe, but you have yet to establish its interest in life on Earth.
Complexity is emergent. And we actually lack the ability to understand many of the concepts required to explain many things in the universe.
I have an issue with the word purposeful in the last sentence. What makes you say that? How do you know there was a purpose? And computers refute your assertion, despite being built by humans.
And tell me, why is it impossible for the creation of the universe to be triggered by something that wasn't conscious, like a process, force etc?
(August 18, 2015 at 10:23 am)lkingpinl Wrote: For me this one is logical. Because consciousness as we understand is an outworking or byproduct of an intelligent mind and the world is intelligible (can be understood and has order and laws) then the first cause must be an intelligent mind and therefore conscious. Only intelligent minds with conscious can bring forth ordered, purposeful complexity.
Nonsense. Our brains evolved by natural means, and they are complex. for the prose of this argument I accept that something triggered the beginning of the universe, but you have yet to establish its interest in life on Earth.
Complexity is emergent. And we actually lack the ability to understand many of the concepts required to explain many things in the universe.
I have an issue with the word purposeful in the last sentence. What makes you say that? How do you know there was a purpose? And computers refute your assertion, despite being built by humans.
And tell me, why is it impossible for the creation of the universe to be triggered by something that wasn't conscious, like a process, force etc?